Mike Tyson Vs Sonny Liston

[Ascended]

Yes, I know HOF means nothing in a h2h matchup, i just used that to try and create a simplified baseline to standardize a variable (fighter ability).

Without it, you could have cited a pre 1970s champion level fighter beating a modern club level fighter. Pedantic as that may have been, just wanted to better focus the discussion.

Well I can't name many cause like I said all those before compared to 70s-90s are horrible in movement and skill

[billeau2]

Well I can't name many cause like I said all those before compared to 70s-90s are horrible in movement and skill

You should be forced down into a chair a la Clockwork Orange, while tape was played of fighters to show what a ****** thing you just posted.

[Toby31]

What it's worth I listened to joe Rogan spoke to teddy atlas and gave his view on Tyson sour g****s maybe but I agree with his view.

[Willie Pep 229]

What it's worth I listened to joe Rogan spoke to teddy atlas and gave his view on Tyson sour g****s maybe but I agree with his view.

What 'sour g****s' - what do you agree with?

[Toby31]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wCZY_vW860

[Willie Pep 229]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wCZY_vW860

I wan't challenging you - I was offering you an opportunity to express/extrapolate your opinion.

I have no desire to listen to either of those two talk about anything.

I know what Atlas will say, heard that a hundred times, and Rogen never has anytging original to say -- but I do want to hear is your opinion, your take on the issue.

You said you can understand Atlas's complaints. Share why you feel that way.

My personal opinion, as the what was going on in the Catskills but in the early to middle 80s, e.g. Tyson, D'Amato, Atlas, is best described . . .

If someone ran into that compound/camp and yelled "No bozos on this bus" ? All three of them would have to get off.

But what do you see in Altas's compliant?

[QueensburyRules]

I wan't challenging you - I was offering you an opportunity to express/extrapolate your opinion.

I have no desire to listen to either of those two talk about anything.

I know what Atlas will say, heard that a hundred times, and Rogen never has anytging original to say -- but I do want to hear is your opinion, your take on the issue.

You said you can understand Atlas's complaints. Share why you feel that way.

My personal opinion, as the what was going on in the Catskills but in the early to middle 80s, e.g. Tyson, D'Amato, Atlas, is best described . . .

If someone ran into that compound/camp and yelled "No bozos on this bus" ? All three of them would have to get off.

But what do you see in Altas's compliant?

- - LooneyTunes Teddy pulls out his pistola to highjack the bus screaming "My way or the highway."