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  • Who is the GREATEST ASIAN BOXER?

    Was it Pacquiao?

    I think it is Pacquiao. The only problem is they always compare him to Bruce Lee... another small eyed asian. The world is being forced to believe that Asians should be Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Chinese and middle-eastern only.

  • #2
    Originally posted by dionysius View Post
    Was it Pacquiao?

    I think it is Pacquiao. The only problem is they always compare him to Bruce Lee... another small eyed asian. The world is being forced to believe that Asians should be Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Chinese and middle-eastern only.


    Well, its no wonder you've been banned. But to answer the question....I'm going with Pacquiao now. I think he has surpassed Fighting Harada and long ago surpassed Kaosia Galaxy (sp?) and all other Asian fighters. Than again, I wouldn't be being honest if I said I had a firm grasp on all the other great fighters from that continent either.

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    • #3
      There's a good chance it will be Pacquiao, but he's still fighting and it's too early to say..
      I very much doubt it, but whose to say that he won't get humiliated and retire after his next fight.. Or what if he went on to lose his next 2 or 3?
      It wouldn't be the 1st time a touted ATG has done this.. You could use the careers of Poison Junior Jones or Fernando Vargas as examples..

      As it stands, I'd say Khaosai Galaxy is the greatest Asian fighter to have ever lived.. He dominated the Super Fly division throughout most of the 80's and some of the 90's to.. His record was almost identical to that of Marciano, 49 wins with 43 KO's.. The only blemish being a narrow points defeat, that occurred very early in his career..

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      • #4
        It's a done deal. Pacquiao has a lot in the bank at this point, and I think it would take extreme circumstance for him not be the best. Proven and admitted steroid abuse, commit a murder, etc. I mainly say that because of the selling points with Pacquiao that fans and media just eat up. Knockouts, growing up in extreme poverty, considered the best p4p in the sport for however long he stays there, big match ups, multiple titles in multiple weight classes. If the 2nd best is Galaxy, then there you go. Didn't really beat anyone of note, and did he ever even fight outside of Thailand?

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        • #5
          Here is a list (not mine) that I found and thought was pretty interesting. Opinions?

          1- Masahiko "Fighting" Harada- The relentless, quick handed, strong and tenacious Japanese fighter with bulldog courage and extreme durabililty. Beat the great Pone Kingpetch for the title at age 19, lost it to Kingpetch in the rematch. He moved up to 118, was stopped by the great Jose Medel and then fought his way to the title and eventually became the only man to beat the amazing Eder Jofre, twice, both being absolutely amazing wars where both men were out on their feet and he showed his versatility in the first by boxing Jofre in the later rounds. Lost the title to Lionel Rose and never was truly world class again, though he fought and lost for the Featherweight title twice, losing to Johnny Famechon.

          2- Manny Pacquiao- Not much to say that many do not already know but I will mention that at the early age of twenty he won the lineal flyweight title from the talented Saskul.

          3- Pancho Villa- Maybe the greatest Filipino fighter ever, like Pacquiao fought amazing opposition early in life and became one of the only men to ever stop the legendary Jimmy Wilde. Died shortly after his loss to a seventeen year old future great Jimmy McClarnin in his last bout. One thing I do believe is his power is not properly represented by his record, his style hampered it by being so relentless he never really set down on his punches, I also think the same thing about Fighting Harada.

          4- Gabriel "Flash" Elorde- Though somewhat inconsistent at times he defended his Jr. Lightweigt titles ten times and beat fighters such as Harold Gomes, Lou Bizarro, Ismael Laguna among others along with going 1-1 with the great Sandy Saddler.

          5- Pone Kingpetch- Not a long career but was tall, fast, methodical and was fantastic in the rematch. Beat the greatest Flyweight of all time twice in Pascual Perez, and other greats like Fighting Harada and Hiroyuki Ebihara.

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          • #6
            Maybe it's just me, but I think it's wrong to rate a fighters ATG status, until he is retired, or at least ancient like Hopkins, Holyfield & Jones..
            Or, in other words, it would be wrong (at present) to put Wlad in a list of ATG heavyweights..
            I'd say Pac's right in the middle of his prime at the moment, but imagine if Pac gets KTFO in the 1st against Cotto, & the same thing happens in the return.. OK, he'd still be an ATG, but more in the mould of Patterson, as opposed to, say Marciano or Ali..
            I know this is all very unlikely, but certainly not unheard of..

            Although, I'm a bit dubious about both of their resumes, (Galaxy & Marciano) Galaxy is the Marciano here.. Not only did he have 43 KO's in 49 wins, but he was also unbeaten in 19! title defenses (WBC) with 16! coming by way of KO.. Off the top of my head, only Joe Louis, and less than a handful of others, have achieved more..

            Galaxy did defend outside of Thailand, he also fought in Indonesia, Japan, Korea and once in the Netherlands, where he KO'd the very useful Israel Contreras..

            Although very few people know of his existence, a fight between Gilberto Roman & Galaxy would have been a very interesting match up.. Roman was the long standing 2 time WBA champ from Mexico, who was also an exceptional fighter.. I don't understand why they never had a unification bout..

            Just for the record, my prediction is that Pac will beat Cotto, & go on to become the Greatest Asian Fighter whoever lived, but at the moment, I wouldn't say it's all totally 'cut and dried'..
            Last edited by mickey malone; 10-22-2009, 03:49 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Here is a list (not mine) that I found and thought was pretty interesting. Opinions?

              1- Masahiko "Fighting" Harada- The relentless, quick handed, strong and tenacious Japanese fighter with bulldog courage and extreme durabililty. Beat the great Pone Kingpetch for the title at age 19, lost it to Kingpetch in the rematch. He moved up to 118, was stopped by the great Jose Medel and then fought his way to the title and eventually became the only man to beat the amazing Eder Jofre, twice, both being absolutely amazing wars where both men were out on their feet and he showed his versatility in the first by boxing Jofre in the later rounds. Lost the title to Lionel Rose and never was truly world class again, though he fought and lost for the Featherweight title twice, losing to Johnny Famechon.

              2- Manny Pacquiao- Not much to say that many do not already know but I will mention that at the early age of twenty he won the lineal flyweight title from the talented Saskul.

              3- Pancho Villa- Maybe the greatest Filipino fighter ever, like Pacquiao fought amazing opposition early in life and became one of the only men to ever stop the legendary Jimmy Wilde. Died shortly after his loss to a seventeen year old future great Jimmy McClarnin in his last bout. One thing I do believe is his power is not properly represented by his record, his style hampered it by being so relentless he never really set down on his punches, I also think the same thing about Fighting Harada.

              4- Gabriel "Flash" Elorde- Though somewhat inconsistent at times he defended his Jr. Lightweigt titles ten times and beat fighters such as Harold Gomes, Lou Bizarro, Ismael Laguna among others along with going 1-1 with the great Sandy Saddler.

              5- Pone Kingpetch- Not a long career but was tall, fast, methodical and was fantastic in the rematch. Beat the greatest Flyweight of all time twice in Pascual Perez, and other greats like Fighting Harada and Hiroyuki Ebihara.
              Wow, this is actually a post I wrote a few months back on Y/A, it's pretty cool to see it used on another website.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dionysius View Post
                Was it Pacquiao?

                I think it is Pacquiao. The only problem is they always compare him to Bruce Lee... another small eyed asian. The world is being forced to believe that Asians should be Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Chinese and middle-eastern only.
                Pac man is the best

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mhager91490 View Post
                  Wow, this is actually a post I wrote a few months back on Y/A, it's pretty cool to see it used on another website.

                  I would switch Pac and Harada, but I thought it was an excellent post. Nice job!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    I would switch Pac and Harada, but I thought it was an excellent post. Nice job!
                    I rate Harada higher almost solely on his wins over Jofre, Pacquiao has accomplished more over the spread of his career but he never fought a guy nearly as good as Jofre, at least IMO (albeit a weight drained Jofre). That being said I have no problem with someone saying Pac is #1. Thanks man.

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