Bud Crawford And His Current Standing?

[JakeTheBoxer]

he is HOF, not ATG: If he can beat Canelo, he is ATG.

[Bronson66]

He would be a great in my eyes,an ATG would depend on what Canelo had indicated he had left.

[Dr Z]

I've been having a debate with another poster elsewhere,regarding where Crawford currently stands,he says he is already an ATG ,and a lock for the 1st time ballot in the HOF.
The HOF means little to me ,its a popularity contest imo,but in your opinion, is Crawford already an ATG?
If you think he is ,what wins of his have decided you of that?

Crawford is an all time great. Like him or not he is undefeated fighter with multiple defenses and 40+ fights. And just watch him, he has top drawer skills.

He faces a much bigger Canelo soon in Las Vegas with those judges. I think he will lose and will certainly lose if it is a 7-5 fight scored ( either way ) by 3rd party people who watched the fight. In boxing, bet on the cash cow especially if has been fed with " Mexican " substances.

Has he beaten another likely hall of fame fighter before? Why answer, that means little to you.

[Bronson66]

Crawford is an all time great. Like him or not he is undefeated fighter with multiple defenses and 40+ fights. And just watch him, he has top drawer skills.

He faces a much bigger Canelo soon in Las Vegas with those judges. I think he will lose and will certainly lose if it is a 7-5 fight scored ( either way ) by 3rd party people who watched the fight. In boxing, bet on the cash cow especially if has been fed with " Mexican " substances.

Has he beaten another likely hall of fame fighter before? Why answer, that means little to you.

Your answers mean even less! lol

[Dr Z]

Your answers mean even less! lol

LOL, look who's talking! Don't be afraid to list which board this debate is on. Or do you have issues with the posters there too.

By the way, I am waiting for Jack Johnson's best five wins.

[DeeMoney]

he is HOF, not ATG: If he can beat Canelo, he is ATG.

I get what you are saying, but I'm not sure this fight will be as telling as you think. At least in regards to swaying your opinion of Crawford's historical status.

Both fighters are older, and relatively inactive- if a post prime, once a year fighting Crawford moves up and beats a post prime not quite as active as he used to be Canelo will that really change how you see him as a fighter? I mean compared to his career up to this point already.

I think whatever you feel about Crawford up to now should be pretty close to what you feel about him when all is said and done.

[Bronson66]

LOL, look who's talking! Don't be afraid to list which board this debate is on. Or do you have issues with the posters there too.

By the way, I am waiting for Jack Johnson's best five wins.

ESB is the forum , I have no issues there, now that you are permanently banned.lol

[Dr Z]

ESB is the forum , I have no issues there, now that you are permanently banned.lol

That place? I post where I wish, and you have been banned there multiple times.

[QueensburyRules]

I've been having a debate with another poster elsewhere,regarding where Crawford currently stands,he says he is already an ATG ,and a lock for the 1st time ballot in the HOF.
The HOF means little to me ,its a popularity contest imo,but in your opinion, is Crawford already an ATG?
If you think he is ,what wins of his have decided you of that?

- - He's an Arum creation, the only fighter that Arum promoted that cost him $$$$$.

[Bronson66]

That place? I post where I wish, and you have been banned there multiple times.

YOU ARE LYING ,YOU WILL NEVER POST ON ESB AGAIN! McGRAIN BANNED A POSTER AFTER ONE SINGLE POST BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS YOU, I GOT THE GUY REINSTATED,HE POSTS AS BRONSON 666. BANNED HERE.