Vitali Klitchko's 5 Best Wins?

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  • elfag
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    #141
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    I'd say Wlad took more risks his entire career. Always took on the best where as Vits took on mostly second tier comp in comparison. Wlad was boring no doubt, but at least he fought the best available fighters.

    Thats true wlad took more risk by fighting better fighters... though you could argue vitali fighting lewis was a better fighter than any guys Wlad ever fought except takign on AJ as a 41 year old was very risky.

    But I dont blame vitali much, he was out with injuries often and didnt get to get as many big fights or stay as consistent.

    I cant say that vitali ever ducked anyone, he was basically not in position to demand top tier fights

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      #142
      Originally posted by elfag


      Thats true wlad took more risk by fighting better fighters... though you could argue vitali fighting lewis was a better fighter than any guys Wlad ever fought except takign on AJ as a 41 year old was very risky.

      But I dont blame vitali much, he was out with injuries often and didnt get to get as many big fights or stay as consistent.

      I cant say that vitali ever ducked anyone, he was basically not in position to demand top tier fights
      He fought Lewis because he was the champion,as champion he was risk averse. there are too many men who were ranked contenders when Vitali was whom he never faced ,to say he didn't duck anyone.

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        #143
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        Why do you want to just take common opponents? And why did you leave out that Wlad was 2-0 against Byrd while Vits was 0-1?

        Ranking fighters H2H is crap. There is nothing objective or factual about it. You can claim a win or a loss for any scenario you want to either lift your own fighter or put down another.

        Vits resume is HORRIBLE!! You can try to argue this all you want and I'll keep destroying you. As aan openness I'll ask a question that has already been avoided for a week. Has Vits, as a titlis or highest ranked contender, ever fought the first or second best ring ranked contender after him? You know the answer as do the rest of us. Wlad, the younger more talented and bravery brother took on all the credible opposition of that era while Vits picked and chose his was to the easiest path available. These are facts. Argue agaisnt them if you dare.

        And no, Vits isn't even close to being a top 10 ATG heavyweight.






        Everyone knows the injury is the reason a well behind Byrd won ... even you.

        As I told you both Vitali and Wlad were #1 and #2 for much of the time the two were champions so there was not a lot of room to face the 3rd best man. The answer is in the ranking I provided when the fights happened. Have you ever heard of Peter? Or Adamek? Or Sanders? How about Lewis who dragged his feet and tried to make an otter match then quickly retired when the WBC ordered the re-match??

        VK is 8-2 vs top ten ranked opponents that were ring ranked.. And beat many past title holders. This is excellent and few men in heavyweight history were better. I listed them all.


        Go ahead and list your top 10 all itme heavyweights. Well see if VK isn' close.


        Until then... have fun with the Queeny beat downs.


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          #144
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          You can repost your nonsense all you want, be that's all it is is nonsense. The onus to rematch is on the loser. I forget, who lost those fights? Oh yeah, Vits lost. Why don't you try to interject Wlad into this again.....that was funny!!


          VK offered ring ranked Haye and Valuev mathes for his belt. They said no thanks to matches. And of course Lewis opted to retire rather than give Vitali the re-match he said he would. Nonsense to you, I call them FACTS. You are an inadvertently funny guy, Cowboy.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Dr Z



            VK offered ring ranked Haye and Valuev mathes for his belt. They said no thanks to matches. And of course Lewis opted to retire rather than give Vitali the re-match he said he would. Nonsense to you, I call them FACTS. You are an inadvertently funny guy, Cowboy.
            They didn't say no to the matches, they said no to to never ending slave contracts Vits put in, in case he lost. He always had to have his brother involved when he wasn't sure or didn't win. Vits could never do it on his own.

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              #146
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              They didn't say no to the matches, they said no to to never ending slave contracts Vits put in, in case he lost. He always had to have his brother involved when he wasn't sure or didn't win. Vits could never do it on his own.
              To get the fights they had to agree to 2 defences, [if they won the 1st ,]against hand picked challengers selected by the Klits own K2 promotional company,no prizes for guessing whom those challengers would have been!lol

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                #147
                Originally posted by Bronson66

                To get the fights they had to agree to 2 defences, [if they won the 1st ,]against hand picked challengers selected by the Klits own K2 promotional company,no prizes for guessing whom those challengers would have been!lol
                A bunch of BS to try and keep whatever title in case one brother lost. Sad actually.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Bronson66

                  He fought Lewis because he was the champion,as champion he was risk averse. there are too many men who were ranked contenders when Vitali was whom he never faced ,to say he didn't duck anyone.

                  who did he duck ? name and years? if they are so numerous

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by elfag


                    who did he duck ? name and years? if they are so numerous
                    Vitali entered the ratings in 2002 rated no 7, with him were;
                    Tua
                    Holyfield
                    Ruiz
                    Rahman
                    K Johnson
                    Tyson
                    McCline
                    2003
                    Vitali was no1, also ranked were;
                    Jones
                    Toney
                    Tua
                    Ruiz
                    Oquendo
                    Tyson


                    2004 Vitali Champ also ranked were;
                    Byrd
                    Ruiz
                    Rahman
                    Toney
                    Barrett
                    Oquendo
                    Golota
                    McCline
                    Brewster

                    2008 Vitali no2 also ranked were;
                    Chagaev
                    Povetkin
                    Valuev
                    Ibragimov
                    Maskaev
                    Dimitrenko

                    2009 Vitali ranked no1also ranked were;
                    Povetkin
                    Chagaev
                    Haye
                    Valuev
                    Dimitrenko
                    Thompson

                    2010 Vitali ranked no1also ranked were;
                    Haye
                    Povetkin
                    Chagaev
                    Boytsov
                    Valuev
                    Chambers

                    2011Vitali ranked no 1 also ranked were:
                    Povetkin
                    Chambers
                    Pulev
                    Boytsov
                    Chagaev
                    Helenius
                    Dimitrenko

                    2012 Vitali ranked no1 also ranked were;
                    Povetkin
                    Haye
                    Pulev
                    Helenius
                    Boytsov
                    Chagaev
                    Fury


                    That enough for you?
                    Last edited by Bronson66; Today, 04:04 AM.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Bronson66

                      Vitali entered the ratings in 2002 rated no 7, with him were;
                      Tua
                      Holyfield
                      Ruiz
                      Rahman
                      K Johnson
                      Tyson
                      McCline
                      2003
                      Vitali was no1, also ranked were;
                      Jones
                      Toney
                      Tua
                      Ruiz
                      Oquendo
                      Tyson


                      2004 Vitali Champ also ranked were;
                      Byrd
                      Ruiz
                      Rahman
                      Toney
                      Barrett
                      Oquendo
                      Golota
                      McCline
                      Brewster

                      2008 Vitali no2 also ranked were;
                      Chagaev
                      Povetkin
                      Valuev
                      Ibragimov
                      Maskaev
                      Dimitrenko

                      2009 Vitali ranked no1also ranked were;
                      Povetkin
                      Chagaev
                      Haye
                      Valuev
                      Dimitrenko
                      Thompson

                      2010 Vitali ranked no1also ranked were;
                      Haye
                      Povetkin
                      Chagaev
                      Boytsov
                      Valuev
                      Chambers

                      2011Vitali ranked no 1 also ranked were:
                      Povetkin
                      Chambers
                      Pulev
                      Boytsov
                      Chagaev
                      Helenius
                      Dimitrenko

                      2012 Vitali ranked no1 also ranked were;
                      Povetkin
                      Haye
                      Pulev
                      Helenius
                      Boytsov
                      Chagaev
                      Fury


                      That enough for you?




                      You are a sad man old man. VK had offered Haye and Valuev millions for a title fight. They declined and fought for less. And he was supposed to fight Tyson but Danny Williams ruined that so he fought him instead.

                      Facts for a foolish man. A fighter can't fight everyone in the top ten.

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