Vitali Klitchko's 5 Best Wins?

[NotIron]

Doesn't bother me in the least. Vits was a good fighter but he never tried to rematch Byrd, avoided Rahman and has a terrible resume. If that hurts the feelings of nuthuggers....to bad. Everything i say is verifiable. That doesnt make me a hater, it makes mee a realist.

You see, I totally agree with you there.

Do I agree with you on everything you say on this topic? No. But what I will say is, you back up your positions with facts, and verifiable facts, your positions are never unreasonable (even the ones I don’t agree with 100%), you are fair in analysis as far as I can see, you don’t say anything that isn’t true or bending of the truth. So how can that be deemed a “hater” ( a word I find pathetic)

My question to you though is, why do you then turn around and call me a James Toney hater? Don’t you see you just do exactly what I do but yet you call me a “hater”. Why?

[JAB5239]

You see, I totally agree with you there.

Do I agree with you on everything you say on this topic? No. But what I will say is, you back up your positions with facts, and verifiable facts, your positions are never unreasonable (even the ones I don’t agree with 100%), you are fair in analysis as far as I can see, you don’t say anything that isn’t true or bending of the truth. So how can that be deemed a “hater” ( a word I find pathetic)

My question to you though is, why do you then turn around and call me a James Toney hater? Don’t you see you just do exactly what I do but yet you call me a “hater”. Why?

We can't all always agree.

You have me at a loss, I'd have to see the post and context. I don't recall calling you a hater. Not saying it didn't happen, only that I don't remember.

[NotIron]

We can't all always agree.

You have me at a loss, I'd have to see the post and context. I don't recall calling you a hater. Not saying it didn't happen, only that I don't remember.

You know who this is right? Clue in the username.

Anyway, I can’t recall for sure but I am 90+% sure you have claimed I “hate” James Toney when I critique his career. When for years now have challenged anyone to give me just one example of something that I’ve said that isn’t either backed up by factual information or objective truth.

I just find it interesting, because you’re getting it in the neck here and often do, for essentially the same thing.

[QueensburyRules]

Doesn't bother me in the least. Vits was a good fighter but he never tried to rematch Byrd, avoided Rahman and has a terrible resume. If that hurts the feelings of nuthuggers....to bad. Everything i say is verifiable. That doesnt make me a hater, it makes mee a realist.

- - BeauBronnie snails like U...

[crold1]

Then I'm happy to take your word for it.

He was never ranked IN the magazine. I did research off of print editions for a project. Someone found a website update in archives that happened BETWEEN issues where Solis entered the top ten and then exited before the next issue went to print JUST prior to the Vitali fight. Without that, there'd be no record of it. There's nothing on paper. I posted pics of several months of ratings and you'll see Solis was never ranked in a print issue.

[NotIron]

He was never ranked IN the magazine. I did research off of print editions for a project. Someone found a website update in archives that happened BETWEEN issues where Solis entered the top ten and then exited before the next issue went to print JUST prior to the Vitali fight. Without that, there'd be no record of it. There's nothing on paper. I posted pics of several months of ratings and you'll see Solis was never ranked in a print issue.

Well there you have it then. Perhaps I was mistaken.

I still haven't had chance to check mine at my house.

[Dr Z]

He was never ranked IN the magazine. I did research off of print editions for a project. Someone found a website update in archives that happened BETWEEN issues where Solis entered the top ten and then exited before the next issue went to print JUST prior to the Vitali fight. Without that, there'd be no record of it. There's nothing on paper. I posted pics of several months of ratings and you'll see Solis was never ranked in a print issue.

Nice out, so he was ranked in Ring Magazine. I saw it with my own two eyes in print .. . Before the fight. Oh well, you did say it was online.

One minor mistake does not take anything away from your excellent work.

Please do join us in the lounge. My Trump thread is right up your alley.

[Bronson66]

Nice out, so he was ranked in Ring Magazine. I saw it with my own two eyes in print .. . Before the fight. Oh well, you did say it was online.

One minor mistake does not take anything away from your excellent work.

Please do join us in the lounge. My Trump thread is right up your alley.

Remember when you claimed you read in a Spanish newspaper,that Jorge Fernandez knocked down Carlos Monzon?
He didn't

When you claimed the real Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed? It wasn't

Remember saying Ted Spoon had stated the fight was filmed too? He didn't

After which I contacted Ted and he said he had said no such thing?
Remember saying that you had seen Langford v Hague? You haven't.
To which I responded by asking you about two unique things that happened in that fight,two things that ,if you had seen the fight you would certainly remember. Remember ignoring my questions?


Remember saying that a friend of yours had film of Harry Greb in a fight but you were sworn to secrecy not to reveal it?
Remember Steve Compton asking you for the serial number of that film and you not replying, whereupon he called you a barefaced liar?

Remember stating that Kevin R Smith had said Burns had Jaundice against Johnson,and Smith coming on ESB and telling you not to put words in his mouth that he had never said?

Remember when you claimed Lennox Lewis said, after fighting southpaw Ossie Ocasio, that he would never fight another?
Remember me pointing out to you Ocasio was not a southpaw? lol

[The Big Dunce]

Remember when you claimed you read in a Spanish newspaper,that Jorge Fernandez knocked down Carlos Monzon?
He didn't

When you claimed the real Fitzsimmons v Ruhlin fight was filmed? It wasn't

Remember saying Ted Spoon had stated the fight was filmed too? He didn't

After which I contacted Ted and he said he had said no such thing?
Remember saying that you had seen Langford v Hague? You haven't.
To which I responded by asking you about two unique things that happened in that fight,two things that ,if you had seen the fight you would certainly remember. Remember ignoring my questions?


Remember saying that a friend of yours had film of Harry Greb in a fight but you were sworn to secrecy not to reveal it?
Remember Steve Compton asking you for the serial number of that film and you not replying, whereupon he called you a barefaced liar?

Remember stating that Kevin R Smith had said Burns had Jaundice against Johnson,and Smith coming on ESB and telling you not to put words in his mouth that he had never said?

Remember when you claimed Lennox Lewis said, after fighting southpaw Ossie Ocasio, that he would never fight another?
Remember me pointing out to you Ocasio was not a southpaw? lol

Remember when you said Jack Johnson struggled with Jim Johnson, but then later denied it, insisted another poster produce sources to prove he struggled, and blew a gasket when he showed a post where you did in fact say he struggled?

Remember when you said Johnson gave title shots to Langford, MCVey and Jeannette but he really didn’t?

Remember when you called all those ATG fighters liars yet you believed Johnson and a bunch of anonymous sources that he did, when we know Johnson himself was the biggest liar of them all?

Quoting Compton now are we? The disrespectful Greb shill who was permanently banned from that other forum. The one who disagreed with you often.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Only the Dummies still fighting The Cold War don't rate the Ks.

Well, they do have a reason after the Ks got em all squealin' in soprano after their emasculation.

- - They still squealin'. Must be club by now...