Vitali Klitchko's 5 Best Wins?

[NotIron]

Doesn't bother me in the least. Vits was a good fighter but he never tried to rematch Byrd, avoided Rahman and has a terrible resume. If that hurts the feelings of nuthuggers....to bad. Everything i say is verifiable. That doesnt make me a hater, it makes mee a realist.

You see, I totally agree with you there.

Do I agree with you on everything you say on this topic? No. But what I will say is, you back up your positions with facts, and verifiable facts, your positions are never unreasonable (even the ones I don’t agree with 100%), you are fair in analysis as far as I can see, you don’t say anything that isn’t true or bending of the truth. So how can that be deemed a “hater” ( a word I find pathetic)

My question to you though is, why do you then turn around and call me a James Toney hater? Don’t you see you just do exactly what I do but yet you call me a “hater”. Why?

[JAB5239]

You see, I totally agree with you there.

Do I agree with you on everything you say on this topic? No. But what I will say is, you back up your positions with facts, and verifiable facts, your positions are never unreasonable (even the ones I don’t agree with 100%), you are fair in analysis as far as I can see, you don’t say anything that isn’t true or bending of the truth. So how can that be deemed a “hater” ( a word I find pathetic)

My question to you though is, why do you then turn around and call me a James Toney hater? Don’t you see you just do exactly what I do but yet you call me a “hater”. Why?

We can't all always agree.

You have me at a loss, I'd have to see the post and context. I don't recall calling you a hater. Not saying it didn't happen, only that I don't remember.

[NotIron]

We can't all always agree.

You have me at a loss, I'd have to see the post and context. I don't recall calling you a hater. Not saying it didn't happen, only that I don't remember.

You know who this is right? Clue in the username.

Anyway, I can’t recall for sure but I am 90+% sure you have claimed I “hate” James Toney when I critique his career. When for years now have challenged anyone to give me just one example of something that I’ve said that isn’t either backed up by factual information or objective truth.

I just find it interesting, because you’re getting it in the neck here and often do, for essentially the same thing.

[QueensburyRules]

Doesn't bother me in the least. Vits was a good fighter but he never tried to rematch Byrd, avoided Rahman and has a terrible resume. If that hurts the feelings of nuthuggers....to bad. Everything i say is verifiable. That doesnt make me a hater, it makes mee a realist.

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[crold1]

Then I'm happy to take your word for it.

He was never ranked IN the magazine. I did research off of print editions for a project. Someone found a website update in archives that happened BETWEEN issues where Solis entered the top ten and then exited before the next issue went to print JUST prior to the Vitali fight. Without that, there'd be no record of it. There's nothing on paper. I posted pics of several months of ratings and you'll see Solis was never ranked in a print issue.

[NotIron]

He was never ranked IN the magazine. I did research off of print editions for a project. Someone found a website update in archives that happened BETWEEN issues where Solis entered the top ten and then exited before the next issue went to print JUST prior to the Vitali fight. Without that, there'd be no record of it. There's nothing on paper. I posted pics of several months of ratings and you'll see Solis was never ranked in a print issue.

Well there you have it then. Perhaps I was mistaken.

I still haven't had chance to check mine at my house.

[Dr Z]

He was never ranked IN the magazine. I did research off of print editions for a project. Someone found a website update in archives that happened BETWEEN issues where Solis entered the top ten and then exited before the next issue went to print JUST prior to the Vitali fight. Without that, there'd be no record of it. There's nothing on paper. I posted pics of several months of ratings and you'll see Solis was never ranked in a print issue.

Nice out, so he was ranked in Ring Magazine. I saw it with my own two eyes in print .. . Before the fight. Oh well, you did say it was online.

One minor mistake does not take anything away from your excellent work.

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