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Usky is knocking in the door being a top 8 all time heavyweight.
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Originally posted by Dr Z View Post
That is due to the fan base which supports the fighters. For every Ukraine fan that pays $ to see a fighter, there are 10 UK fans. Ukraine has dominated in champions produced, not active fighters.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
What does fan basehave to do with number of champions? Queenie made a ****** statement that was untrue. It's easily provable.
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Originally posted by Dr Z View Post
Not a thing. I was talking about who easy to go pro in the UK and they have a lot of fans. By the way where do you rate Usyk? Top what ( insert a number ) of all time?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
I'll reserve judgment for a more appropriate time. He is working he way up, no doubt about that. Let's see what Dubois does the rest of his career, AJ, Fury. Do we consider the AJ wins is less because he had been stopped before to an average Ruiz? Was Fury shot from the Wilder fights? Both were still highly ranked so I don't think either of those scenarios hurts him. Like I said, it depends on what the rest of his comp goes on the accompliish.
Yes-- AJ's stock took a hit from Ruiz, BUT he avenged the loss and did some fine work before and after.
Fury was not shot from Wilder. So we agree.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
I'll reserve judgment for a more appropriate time. He is working he way up, no doubt about that. Let's see what Dubois does the rest of his career, AJ, Fury. Do we consider the AJ wins is less because he had been stopped before to an average Ruiz? Was Fury shot from the Wilder fights? Both were still highly ranked so I don't think either of those scenarios hurts him. Like I said, it depends on what the rest of his comp goes on the accompliish.
Ks and Usyk easily bunched in the top 10. Lot of deadwood in the typical grazing herds of media and corrupted boxing orgs.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
- - U time passed along wif U gas a long time ago.
Ks and Usyk easily bunched in the top 10. Lot of deadwood in the typical grazing herds of media and corrupted boxing orgs.Bronson66 likes this.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
The K's and Usyk top 10? Sure. An argument can be made for Wlad. Maybe Usyk when he's done. Vits isn't even close.
Lewie only did so because Vit WBC Mandatory had won 3 US civil suits vs Lewie, so Lewie thought he could short change Vit by giving him only 2 weeks notice.
Stick to Muy Thai where U belong...
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
- - Vit came to the US to talk fights wif Vander, Tyson, and Bowe who refused to fight him.
Lewie only did so because Vit WBC Mandatory had won 3 US civil suits vs Lewie, so Lewie thought he could short change Vit by giving him only 2 weeks notice.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
- - Vit came to the US to talk fights wif Vander, Tyson, and Bowe who refused to fight him.
Lewie only did so because Vit WBC Mandatory had won 3 US civil suits vs Lewie, so Lewie thought he could short change Vit by giving him only 2 weeks notice.
Stick to Muy Thai where U belong...
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