Boxers who were superior in their later careers than as young men. (list)

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    Boxers who were superior in their later careers than as young men. (list)

    Bernard Hopkins (1988-2016)

    Turned pro at 23 after prison, known for discipline and defensive mastery.

    Peaked late due to rigorous lifestyle and mental toughness.

    Became oldest champion at 46, breaking his own record again at 48 and 49.

    George Foreman (1969-1977, 1987-1997)

    Came back at 38 after a decade-long retirement.

    Foreman, while having a long layoff wasn't as fast or as dangerous, he had a smarter approach and seemingly trained harder in his comeback due to his maturity. He had an underrated work ethic. His is a special story because he wasn't just old, he had a very long lay off.

    Matured mentally, fought smarter with relaxed approach.

    Shocked world by regaining heavyweight title at 45, oldest ever heavyweight champ.

    Archie Moore (1935-1963)

    Career spanned nearly 30 years; first title at mid-30s after 130+ fights.

    Crafty style and immense experience allowed him to peak late.

    Dominated as light-heavyweight champion through late 30s and early 40s.

    Jersey Joe Walcott (1930-1953)

    Won heavyweight title at 37 after multiple failed attempts.

    Matured through hardship, developing a unique, cunning style.

    Oldest heavyweight champ at his time; famous knockout of Ezzard Charles.

    Wladimir Klitschko (1996-2017)

    Early career setbacks; peaked after training overhaul with Emanuel Steward.

    Held heavyweight titles from age 30 to 39, dominating the era.

    Improved conditioning and defensive tactics extended his prime.

    Juan Manuel Marquez (1993-2014)

    Struggled to get big fights until early 30s; gained fame later.

    Knocked out Manny Pacquiao at 38; Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year at 39.

    Excelled in late 30s with aggressive style and exceptional conditioning.

    Sergio Marti­nez (1997-2014)

    Started boxing late (age 20), took years to reach elite level.

    Became middleweight champion at 35; peak performance from 33-38.

    Notable wins include Paul Williams KO and victory over Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

    Rocky Marciano (1947-1955)

    Started boxing at 23, considered crude initially.

    Rapidly improved skills and conditioning by late 20s.

    Retired undefeated heavyweight champ at 31; prime victories came after age 28.

    Dwight Muhammad Qawi (1981-1998)

    Learned boxing in prison at 25, turned pro shortly after.

    Captured first world title at 30; two-division champion by early 30s.

    Remarkable ascent due to intense motivation and relentless style.

    Sonny Liston (1953-1970)

    Protracted rise to title due to troubled background and boxing politics.

    Dominated heavyweight division in his early 30s; became champ at ~32.

    Known for intimidating strength and late-career dominance.

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    Love it, good list. Though I'd disagree with Foreman- he was superior as Young Foreman.

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      Originally posted by DeeMoney
      Love it, good list. Though I'd disagree with Foreman- he was superior as Young Foreman.
      I agree. up for speculation though at least.

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        Originally posted by DeeMoney
        Love it, good list. Though I'd disagree with Foreman- he was superior as Young Foreman.
        - - I wouldn't say superior, more like different with a lot more wisdom as to how he should be training him. Sadler was Kearns trained and had him dangerously dehydrated until George got wise and fired him after being drugged...

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          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - I wouldn't say superior, more like different with a lot more wisdom as to how he should be training him. Sadler was Kearns trained and had him dangerously dehydrated until George got wise and fired him after being drugged...
          Yeah thats why I put him on the list. Foreman did improve in some areas - he just wasn’t as dangerous.
          Last edited by them_apples; 07-05-2025, 12:31 PM.

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            The second half of Hopkins career was legendary. Totally night and day. I thought he was finished after the Taylor and Joe Calzaghe losses.

            I would still say younger Foreman was better then older Foreman. Younger Foreman only lost twice in his prime and a legit champion and it had very belts back in those days you had to go through the gauntlet to get a shot.

            Good list.

            Its sad how martinez went out though against Cotto. Is he still trying to come back?

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              Originally posted by MalevolentBite
              The second half of Hopkins career was legendary. Totally night and day. I thought he was finished after the Taylor and Joe Calzaghe losses.

              I would still say younger Foreman was better then older Foreman. Younger Foreman only lost twice in his prime and a legit champion and it had very belts back in those days you had to go through the gauntlet to get a shot.

              Good list.

              Its sad how martinez went out though against Cotto. Is he still trying to come back?
              - - Poppy theTop p4p sissyboy in the HOF.

              Martinez got his knee popped by Chavez Jr in the last round and was never the same. Cotto got a gift belt.

              Martinez returned 2020-23, finishing 6-0, 4KO against solid journeymen types @48 yrs of age.

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                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Poppy theTop p4p sissyboy in the HOF.

                Martinez got his knee popped by Chavez Jr in the last round and was never the same. Cotto got a gift belt.

                Martinez returned 2020-23, finishing 6-0, 4KO against solid journeymen types @48 yrs of age.
                Martinez its true, what he did was quite the accomplishment. he was an uber fit 40 year old who jumped back in the game. not very common at all

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