The Terrible Trio. 50-0, 46-0 & 32-0. JEALOUSY

[travestyny]

I understand your point now.

It is a fair point.

I still believe both sides have strong arguments.

I will addâ¦I think Bob Arum played a roll in this as well

I think Bob Arum played the biggest role of them all to be honest. I really do believe Pac would have fought if Arum told him to.

[them_apples]

I think Bob Arum played the biggest role of them all to be honest. I really do believe Pac would have fought if Arum told him to.

I also made 2 other points / opinions

1: Pacquiao had a lot of signs of PED usage - as do all the others today however they simply aren’t of the same caliber

2: I don’t think Floyd actually won (sorry my eyes cannot lie) and I am not certain Floyd ever beats Pac full sauced out. In fact - I would bet on Pacquiao winning judging it based in how it did play out and the Roy Jones esque decline he showed.

the second part is the part of the argument that annoys me

you cannot argue with something if it can be watched in slow motion with a magnifying glass. And can be viewed over and over again in general. It’s totally clear Floyd used a mixture of smoke and mirrors to win this bout - even down to his body language. He simply was not landing punches.

a similar fight was Teo Phimos completely bogus win over Lomachenko. Yea loma took the first half off - but Teo didn’t land ANYTHING. It pisses me off when a fighter is just hitting gloves and trying to look busy while the hoky commentating bull****s and compubox sits there playing along with it.

[travestyny]

I also made 2 other points / opinions

1: Pacquiao had a lot of signs of PED usage - as do all the others today however they simply arenât of the same caliber

2: I donât think Floyd actually won (sorry my eyes cannot lie) and I am not certain Floyd ever beats Pac full sauced out. In fact - I would bet on Pacquiao winning judging it based in how it did play out and the Roy Jones esque decline he showed

We differ here. I don't think Pac was on PED's besides maybe Toradol, which I do agree would have given him a significant advantage.
I also don't believe he won their fight, but I won't argue with you about your opinion.

I think the fight looks the same in their primes, but sped up, if that makes sense.

I also wonder what Mayweather would have looked like if his hands never hindered his career. He deserves credit for changing his style after the hand injuries, as I don't think many would have been quite able to pull that off and still accomplish so much. It always reminded me of '84 Jordan vs. '96 Jordan.

[MalevolentBite]

Yeah right again every Floyd critic presented dates facts figures ad nauseum you don't want to accept it. Tired of pulling it up

You'll be on here making excuses by the thousands I am sure

How many prime all time great fighters did Floyd beat

How many natural welterweights did Floyd beat

We'll start there

From the year 2000-2025 their were only maybe 4 ATG welterweights. Floyd didn't get to 147lb until 2006. He fought Oscar at light middleweight.

So the answer is none but to be fair none of the ATG welterweights fought each other in their primes from 2000-2025.

Oscar vs Trinidad was 1999. However Floyd didn't get into 147 until he beat Judah.

Natural welterwwelterweight ? What's your definition of natural ?

so we can't use anyone that moved up in weight now ?

Floyd isn't even a natural welterweights by that crazy logic lol.

[MalevolentBite]

Gtfoh Olympic Athletes are random tested year round its common f'king knowledge you don't believe it prove otherwise

How about just ask your boy why was he scared to fight Manny in 2010

I already told you if you want to publicly boohoo round up your fellow Floyd Boys and create a forum

Send me a copy of the contract then.

I thought so.

[djtmal]

Send me a copy of the contract then.

I thought so.

Contract for what

Wtf are you talking about

[QueensburyRules]

Gtfoh Olympic Athletes are random tested year round its common f'king knowledge you don't believe it prove otherwise

How about just ask your boy why was he scared to fight Manny in 2010

I already told you if you want to publicly boohoo round up your fellow Floyd Boys and create a forum

- - l'l crybaby floydy who alway go squallin' fer he cra ck daddy don't set drug testing rules, the commish does.

That's how he got out of getting KOed by Manny.

[djtmal]

So the answer is none

Ok so sifting out all your excuses Floyd beat 0 all time great fighters in their prime

[djtmal]

so we can't use anyone that moved up in weight now

Floyd isn't even a natural welterweights by that crazy logic lol.

We already know how many former lightweights Floyd cherrypicked

Don't play dumb now how many natural welterweights did Floyd beat

Clearly a fighter who spent over 5 years at ww must have beat some natural welterweights

[MalevolentBite]

Contract for what

Wtf are you talking about

That floyd demanded manny be drug tested through the year up until the fight.