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  • #11
    It is often forgotten that Jess Willard was a heck of a fighter, with an excellent resume. Fans today might consider him an earlier version of Vitali Klitschko. They possessed similar height, weight, ability and build. While Vitali benefitted from the easements that exist in the modern sport; what truly set them apart was Jess Willard's immensely superior toughness.

    "Big Jess" was a feared fighter in his day, enjoying top celebrity and boundless ideation about how good he really was; before it all came crashing down against the compact smashing machine known as Jack Dempsey. Prior to that 1919 encounter, many in the press expressed fear for Dempsey's life.
    From the perspective of the moment, such grave concerns were not at all far fetched.

    The choppy films of the 19-teens could not fully capture it, but in fact Willard was very agile, superbly balaned and for a man of his size, astonishingly quick.
    But what is also seemingly forgotten is that Willard was also a ferocious right hand puncher.

    Indeed, in the summer of 1913, he took on, for a third time, a young, muscular cowboy out of Glenrock, Wyoming named John William "Bull" Young. Though the record is stubbornly lost to time, the cowboy pugilist was believed to have won more than 20 fights across the west against other rugged ranchers, farmers and cattlemen in places like Casper, Wheatland, Cheyenne and Billings.

    But Willard was far more than a big ranch hand looking to make some honest money, and in the 11th round, he struck the burly cowboy with a tremendous right uppercut that drove the base of Young's jaw up into his brain, and he died the following day. Willard was arrested and charged with manslaughter. Fortunaly for Willard he was successfully defended by noted Western lawyer Earl Rogers and the charges were dropped, but Young's death would haunt the gentlemanly Willard the remainder of his life.

    Not as unheard of as it would be today, the celebrated Pottawatomie Giant had options for cashing in on his fame aside from risky adventures in the ring. What he opted for was to accept a starring role with Buffalo Bill's Wild West show for a minimum guarantee of $1000 per day, and by taking a percentage of the gate, he often earned $2500 a day; which equates to approximately $79,570.54 today, and I for one, can easily see his side of things, as this certainly demonstrates the cultural importance of being the world's champion in those times, when toughness was still a matter of survival, and survival a matter of toughness.​

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    • #12
      17513871922648922117059169137252.jpg​Jess Williard

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      • #13
        Jess Willard is also Massive.

        years ago he was listed as 6 ft 5, more recently we are seeinf 6 ft 7.

        google the photo Jess Willard and Carnera. A photo with Baer, Carnera, Dempsey etc all them in one shot. Willard must be 400 lbs.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by them_apples View Post
          Jess Willard is also Massive.

          years ago he was listed as 6 ft 5, more recently we are seeinf 6 ft 7.

          google the photo Jess Willard and Carnera. A photo with Baer, Carnera, Dempsey etc all them in one shot. Willard must be 400 lbs.
          Willard was 6ft 6 and1/4 inch.

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          • #15
            He beat an old and tired Johnson. The johnson of 3 years earlier would have beaten him.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

              Willard was 6ft 6 and1/4 inch.
              Thats what they say. Do you know the photo I speak of though? He seems considerably taller than Carnera. He makes Baer look like a little boy. Baer made Louis look small, and Louis well - we have seen him stand beside Ali and Foreman - he’s around their size. Then look how small Dempsey looks beside Willard.

              just doing some mental math here, have a look at the photo I am talking about. The mans enormous.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                Thats what they say. Do you know the photo I speak of though? He seems considerably taller than Carnera. He makes Baer look like a little boy. Baer made Louis look small, and Louis well - we have seen him stand beside Ali and Foreman - heâs around their size. Then look how small Dempsey looks beside Willard.

                just doing some mental math here, have a look at the photo I am talking about. The mans enormous.
                Well we all go with what seems correct to us individually.Yes I know the photo.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Johnson was likely in the best shape of his life...
                  An old fat man in the Havana heat? You can’t be serious.


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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    An old fat man in the Havana heat? You can’t be serious.

                    - - 225 age 37 whereas 221 for Moran previous.

                    Apparently you never knew of his training regimen vs Willard. He did some limited running and sparing and a ton of swimming in the Gulf waters where he got conditioning without pounding his body.

                    He kept up a fast pace on Willard trying for the KO for 26 rounds, far more rounds than he'd ever been in a fight...simples...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - 225 age 37 whereas 221 for Moran previous.

                      Apparently you never knew of his training regimen vs Willard. He did some limited running and sparing and a ton of swimming in the Gulf waters where he got conditioning without pounding his body.

                      He kept up a fast pace on Willard trying for the KO for 26 rounds, far more rounds than he'd ever been in a fight...simples...
                      He was fat for Moran too.Johnson tired visibly after the 20th round and slowed down to a walk ,he sent a message to his wife asking her to leave the arena.

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