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  • #11
    Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post

    Yeah and so what? I post a photo with minimum comment, just enough to get the link accepted,and you make a song and dance about comparative results?
    McCarty beat Kaufman 3 years after Johnson had burst Kaufman's burst bubble.

    WTF has that to do with the photo I posted?
    Why don't you team up with that other idiot Z?
    We can call you the ,"Hate Johnson Tag Team",WTF!
    - - Just pointing out how McCarty targeted JJ opponents that yielded better results than JJ...21 yr old White Champ McCarty agreed to fight before McCarty's tragic demise that shocked all of America...yup!!!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

      - - Just pointing out how McCarty targeted JJ opponents that yielded better results than JJ...21 yr old White Champ McCarty agreed to fight before McCarty's tragic demise that shocked all of America...yup!!!
      But it has nothing to do with the photo,which you just used as an excuse to dump onJohnson.

      It's wrong anyway. McCarty did not target Johnson's opponents,nor did he do better against them except for Kaufman was was by then a spent force.
      1913
      Johnson won every round against Flynn until he police stopped the one sided affair in1912 ,he then tkod Flynn in11 rds in1913 McCarty won a dec over Flynn in1912.
      McCarty beat Moran by dec in1913.Johnson did not fight Moran until1914.

      McCarty drew with Willard over 10 rounds.
      Thirty seven years old Johnson was well in front after 20 rounds with Willard, before exhaustion set in. Whilst in exile Johnson sent a wire to Tommy Burns offering to defend against McCarty in Canada for Burns.
      Burns wanted no part of it.
      Last edited by Bronson66; 05-29-2025, 12:19 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - Just pointing out how McCarty targeted JJ opponents that yielded better results than JJ...21 yr old White Champ McCarty agreed to fight before McCarty's tragic demise that shocked all of America...yup!!!
        McCarty said he would never fight a negro.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

          McCarty said he would never fight a negro.
          I didn't know that Jab.

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          • #15
            Because he knew he would get his ass kicked.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Bronson66 View Post
              I didn't know that Jab.
              After the Palzer fight and winning the "White" heavyweight championship he said "McCarty said: "When I accepted the heavy-weight championship belt, I agreed to an unwritten clause that I should never fight a negro [...] Well, I'm going to live up to my contract.",[46] and that he would not fight Johnson "under any circumstances.”"[17]".
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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                After the Palzer fight and winning the "White" heavyweight championship he said "McCarty said: "When I accepted the heavy-weight championship belt, I agreed to an unwritten clause that I should never fight a negro [...] Well, I'm going to live up to my contract.",[46] and that he would not fight Johnson "under any circumstances.”"[17]".
                Cheers Jab.
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                • #18
                  So that the pictures posted here will match the commentary contributed........

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                    After the Palzer fight and winning the "White" heavyweight championship he said "McCarty said: "When I accepted the heavy-weight championship belt, I agreed to an unwritten clause that I should never fight a negro [...] Well, I'm going to live up to my contract.",[46] and that he would not fight Johnson "under any circumstances.”"[17]".
                    - - I know in monkey world U a celebrated zero howler, but point in fact:

                    Luther McCarty Willing To Meet Johnson

                    White Champion Ready To Face The Black Title Holder

                    Johnson’s statement that he would fight Luther McCarty of Nebraska, white champion of the world, providing he could get permission from Judge Carpenter’s jurisdiction of the court…

                    Johnson’s proffer of a fight was immediately transmitted to Billy McCarney, manager of Luther McCarty, the white champion, who is training in Calgary, Alberta, for his match there on May 24, with Arthur Pelkey of New England, for the white heavyweight title.

                    “McCarty has signed for no battles after May 24…he would gladly declare everything except this Pelkey match off on the spot if assured a meeting with Johnson. Further, I want to say that right now McCarty is Johnson’s master, and would beat him sure.”

                    -Milwaukee Free Press. May 17, 1913
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                      - - I know in monkey world U a celebrated zero howler, but point in fact:

                      Luther McCarty Willing To Meet Johnson

                      White Champion Ready To Face The Black Title Holder

                      Johnson’s statement that he would fight Luther McCarty of Nebraska, white champion of the world, providing he could get permission from Judge Carpenter’s jurisdiction of the court…

                      Johnson’s proffer of a fight was immediately transmitted to Billy McCarney, manager of Luther McCarty, the white champion, who is training in Calgary, Alberta, for his match there on May 24, with Arthur Pelkey of New England, for the white heavyweight title.

                      “McCarty has signed for no battles after May 24…he would gladly declare everything except this Pelkey match off on the spot if assured a meeting with Johnson. Further, I want to say that right now McCarty is Johnson’s master, and would beat him sure.”

                      -Milwaukee Free Press. May 17, 1913
                      And once he had a "white" title he refused to meet Johnson for the legit world title. I'll take the words coming straight from the horses mouth rather than from a horses ass, thank you.

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