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  • #31
    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

    Givens was an abusive gold-digger with a plan orchestrated by her mother, which backfired. It was a toxic, violent relationship for both. Do read the story.
    Now you use the word both which is an improvement.

    Did you sort of snap out of your narrative there and had a moment of clarity and thought to yourself "Wait a second, why am I potraying a man who is the heavyweight champion of the world punching a 100lb woman as hard as he can as the victim?".

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    • #32
      He probably lightly bluff-slapped the end of her chin with his fingertips in a big show of potential and that she needed to calm down and listen, during a huge tiff. She would go crazier at that point. By best punch I am sure he meant the one that did him the most good
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      • #33
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

        - - Mosely ruined his own life and reputation as part of the BALCO Ped scandal. Got off scott free, but Vic Conte served a prison sentence and then founded VADA which is an unregulated drug testing org for boxing.

        Really don't care about fighter's wives, but Robin Givens combining with DKing and her witchy mother pulled the biggest heist in Boxing history that left Tyson basically bankrupt when he got out of prison.

        Geraldine was beloved by Sonny as much as he loved his mama, the only two people he prob ever loved. No kids as far as I know...
        Geraldine had a daughter from a previous relationship.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BKM- View Post

          Now you use the word both which is an improvement.

          Did you sort of snap out of your narrative there and had a moment of clarity and thought to yourself "Wait a second, why am I potraying a man who is the heavyweight champion of the world punching a 100lb woman as hard as he can as the victim?".
          My narrative is facts, as always. I'm not a blind Tyson fanboy as you want to depict anyone who brings facts in defence of Mike. Your hate for Tyson is well-known here, and I have accepted it.

          Again, if you had really studied the subject, you would have realized by now that, over the years, it was Tyson himself who admitted an awful lot of his wrongdoing.
          Last edited by Tatabanya; Yesterday, 12:45 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

            My narrative is facts, as always. I'm not a blind Tyson fanboy as you want to depict anyone who brings facts in defence of Mike. Your hate for Tyson is well-known here, and I have accepted it.

            Again, if you had really studied the subject, you would have realized by now that, over the years, it was Tyson himself who admitted an awful lot of his wrongdoing.
            No, he really didn't. He's been a professional victim since childhood. A brief summary:

            -****: Denial and wrongful conviction according to him, despite a long history of ***ual and spousal violence against females. He's the victim there and everything is a lie.
            -***ually assaulting Teddy's kid niece but Tyson is the victim because Teddy threatened him with a gun. Never mind what he did to the child.
            -Getting screwed by managers and leeches. Something to be said here. At the same time he went through this before prison, and then when he came out he made the same exact mistakes 10 fold. Once again he's only a victim here. Even though it was his choice to fire the only team who cared about him, and his choice to hang out with leeches.
            -Robin Givens. I hear you, not someone you should marry clearly mentally unstable. But you divorce a woman, you don't beat the hell out of her especially not when you are the most lethal puncher on the planet. I still have yet to see you condemn this behavior. You don't strike me as the type of man who would land the best punch of his life on a lady do you?
            -A history of being a dirty fighter, bragging about it with glee. Then one opponent gives him a taste of his medicine and it's right back to victimhood.
            -Whines about the media's and society's perception of him but he's the one who makes the choice to hang around in the hood with known thugs and gangsters, gets into fights with civilians, yells about eating his opponent's children, attacks them unprovoked at press conferences causing huge brawls then humiliates himself to the world grabbing himself while prison talking to the media exposing exactly why he went to prison.

            But no everyone is mean to him and it's unfair and oh he's had it so rough. Tyson hasn't admitted or accepted anything. Whatever example you want to give me to prove me wrong, it will be a statement where he still deflects blame and he comes out as the victim.

            You know what really annoys me, probably nothing angers me more than a dishonest person. Whether it's blatant lies, spinning narratives and facts, manipulating people or events etc. There's nothing more disgusting to me(Other than extremes like rapists and murderers which debatably Tyson is both) than dishonest people.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BKM- View Post

              No, he really didn't. He's been a professional victim since childhood. A brief summary:

              -****: Denial and wrongful conviction according to him, despite a long history of ***ual and spousal violence against females. He's the victim there and everything is a lie.
              -***ually assaulting Teddy's kid niece but Tyson is the victim because Teddy threatened him with a gun. Never mind what he did to the child.
              -Getting screwed by managers and leeches. Something to be said here. At the same time he went through this before prison, and then when he came out he made the same exact mistakes 10 fold. Once again he's only a victim here. Even though it was his choice to fire the only team who cared about him, and his choice to hang out with leeches.
              -Robin Givens. I hear you, not someone you should marry clearly mentally unstable. But you divorce a woman, you don't beat the hell out of her especially not when you are the most lethal puncher on the planet. I still have yet to see you condemn this behavior. You don't strike me as the type of man who would land the best punch of his life on a lady do you?
              -A history of being a dirty fighter, bragging about it with glee. Then one opponent gives him a taste of his medicine and it's right back to victimhood.
              -Whines about the media's and society's perception of him but he's the one who makes the choice to hang around in the hood with known thugs and gangsters, gets into fights with civilians, yells about eating his opponent's children, attacks them unprovoked at press conferences causing huge brawls then humiliates himself to the world grabbing himself while prison talking to the media exposing exactly why he went to prison.

              But no everyone is mean to him and it's unfair and oh he's had it so rough. Tyson hasn't admitted or accepted anything. Whatever example you want to give me to prove me wrong, it will be a statement where he still deflects blame and he comes out as the victim.

              You know what really annoys me, probably nothing angers me more than a dishonest person. Whether it's blatant lies, spinning narratives and facts, manipulating people or events etc. There's nothing more disgusting to me(Other than extremes like rapists and murderers which debatably Tyson is both) than dishonest people.
              What passion!

              I don't justify anything of any violence Tyson did against women. In Undisputed Truth he is brutally honest against himself, and condemns most of his acts from the past. But he still denies having r-a-ped Miss Washington, and I tend to believe him. Washington, from what I have studied, was aiming to be the next Givens.

              What annoys you, annoys me too. But you are describing the bulk of humanity. Tyson a murderer? I can't recall the episode you are referring to, honest.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

                What passion!

                I don't justify anything of any violence Tyson did against women. In Undisputed Truth he is brutally honest against himself, and condemns most of his acts from the past. But he still denies having r-a-ped Miss Washington, and I tend to believe him. Washington, from what I have studied, was aiming to be the next Givens.

                What annoys you, annoys me too. But you are describing the bulk of humanity. Tyson a murderer? I can't recall the episode you are referring to, honest.

                Tyson admitted knocking out elderly women on the streets(No doubt a genetic scumbaggery component that would develop into adulthood) to rob them. If you do that, the head hitting the concrete is certain death if the punch itself doesn't cause it, elderly people can't survive this kind of damage. He doesn't know what happened to those old ladies as he ran. Very high chance they died after he did that. That's a murderer.

                Anyway, I would love to see an example of Tyson admitting his wrong doings. Like I said, I am almost 100% positive if I see the full quote there will be some manipulation going on where he still ends up as a victim in the statement.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BKM- View Post


                  Tyson admitted knocking out elderly women on the streets(No doubt a genetic scumbaggery component that would develop into adulthood) to rob them. If you do that, the head hitting the concrete is certain death if the punch itself doesn't cause it, elderly people can't survive this kind of damage. He doesn't know what happened to those old ladies as he ran. Very high chance they died after he did that. That's a murderer.

                  Anyway, I would love to see an example of Tyson admitting his wrong doings. Like I said, I am almost 100% positive if I see the full quote there will be some manipulation going on where he still ends up as a victim in the statement.
                  I'd want you to be my lawyer in case of need

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

                    I'd want you to be my lawyer in case of need
                    Alright ok, a little levity. I get it.

                    I would still like to see some examples though. It's up to you.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BKM- View Post


                      Tyson admitted knocking out elderly women on the streets(No doubt a genetic scumbaggery component that would develop into adulthood) to rob them. If you do that, the head hitting the concrete is certain death if the punch itself doesn't cause it, elderly people can't survive this kind of damage. He doesn't know what happened to those old ladies as he ran. Very high chance they died after he did that. That's a murderer.

                      Anyway, I would love to see an example of Tyson admitting his wrong doings. Like I said, I am almost 100% positive if I see the full quote there will be some manipulation going on where he still ends up as a victim in the statement.
                      Show me that she was hit harder than the straight right Tyson landed on Botha. Or indeed that she was ever actually beaten up at all. Show me, and I will explain it. Unless she is a mass of bruises rushed to emergency surgery or rushed to plastic surgery, he tapped her lightly or not at all. Scary as hell anyway when Mike is raging.

                      As to the old ladies, you have a point. But he ran away in order to never be caught. If he had done more than tap Mrs. Tyson, there was no running far enough for one of the most recognizable men in the world at the time

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