Jack Johnson Admits He Was Genuinely KO'd

[Mr Mitts]

Quicher squallin', all you'ns.

[billeau2]

1 ) He is not a friend

2 ) He is a known BSer as many fight film collector are

3 ) Klompton guards his fights like a dragon guards his treasure.

4 ) I have his fight list and when he said " No you don't ! I shared it with some people he was as oods with so we could make fun of him. Would you like to see it?

5 ) I gave details about the fight in question. Your memory is failing you old man, among other things.

Footage of Greb? Really? Did you see it? Not that I would believe it if you said "yes."

[billeau2]

this bull**** old man fight over secret films no one else has. Christ.

The entire premise that your eyes should matter so much. let me settle this and be the most absolutely correct mother ****er to post in this thread yet; the both of you suffer from a bad case of head-in-ass narcissism. I should know, I'm the worst. Both of you mother ****ers. Head-in-ass narcissist. The rest of these ****' opinions should not matter at all. Jab, Willow, Bill, Pep, Apples, all dis ****ing qualified, you know why? None them half as narcissistic as any of us.

The real difference? I need you all to know I know and will batter you relentlessly with my proof of research. Bronny needs to be agreed with so hardly ever takes any contrarian or dissenting stance in any topic. Dr. Z's privy to special hidden knowledge, this time it's video, sometimes it's video, sometimes it's papers, this **** always claiming special hidden knowledge.

Let me be the one with some semblance of ****ing self awareness when I say you goofy old ****s, ain't none of us special. I'm fully aware all my research means I know a bunch of **** no one else is interested in until after I provoke a fight with them. Bronson, your reliance on "authority" opinion doesn't make you schooled it makes you a p u s s y. Z, ain't no one thinks you're special for having access to **** all anything and ain't no one give a **** about anyone who thinks they can discern **** all anything from the absolute garbage tech of the time FFS.


Goofy ass fight. Both y'all play nice with yer goofy old asses and move TF on from do he don't he seen special film. ****ing older than me are yas? Could be my grandads? Not fit imo.

Come on ya man! Greb footage is right up there with the Arc! As a matter of fact, if they ever get to the Sanctum where the Arc is hidden, there well might be a note and a film roll proving God has a sense of humor! The African guardians would then say "Well we had to guard both, but then God made us decide and the Arc made great firewood!

[Dr Z]

Footage of Greb? Really? Did you see it? Not that I would believe it if you said "yes."

No, only footage of Greb sparring.

[Bronson66]

Footage of Greb? Really? Did you see it? Not that I would believe it if you said "yes."

He stated he had a friend who had film of Greb actually in a fight and ,when Klompton called him on it,he said ,"You don't know every boxing film that is out there."Which is true,but he knows a damn sight more than Z does about fight films and Harry Greb!
I haven't spoken to Klompton for a couple of years,like Mendoza he is banned from Boxing 24,but I pm'd him last night .

[solidman]

I would give anything to see a fight with Harry Greb.

[Willie Pep 229]

I would give anything to see a fight with Harry Greb.

I wish you could too. Then maybe all this hyperbole (not by you) about how this guy Greb was a lesser-god might subside a little.

I have said, and say again. I think (my conjecture from evaluating his résumé) Greb was feather-fisted; that he was an arm puncher.

One anecdotal example: In his decision victory over Tommy Gibbons one newspaper guy qualified the win by stating: "Greb threw a million punches but never hurt Gibbons as he seldom set."

"Seldom set" - What does that suggest? - Arm puncher.

Also what about his nickname? "The Human Windmill." Does that sound like a fighter with finesse, proper balance, a master of technique, throwing set punches that come from the floor? No, it doesn't. What it sounds like is an arm puncher.

And those newspaper guys who coined that nickname for him, were sitting ringside.

I too wish we could find a damn film of him.

P.S. If Anyone wants to debunk my statement, by all means please do, but please do not do it with quotes from Pittsburgh newspapers. They are a useless source when evaluating Harry Greb. Greb was Pittsburgh's golden child and their assessment of his fights read like Fox News talking about Donald Trump, ---> utterly useless information.

[QueensburyRules]

I wish you could too. Then maybe all this hyperbole (not by you) about how this guy Greb was a lesser-god might subside a little.

I have said, and say again. I think (my conjecture from evaluating his résumé) Greb was feather-fisted; that he was an arm puncher.

One anecdotal example: In his decision victory over Tommy Gibbons one newspaper guy qualified the win by stating: "Greb threw a million punches but never hurt Gibbons as he seldom set."

"Seldom set" - What does that suggest? - Arm puncher.

Also what about his nickname? "The Human Windmill." Does that sound like a fighter with finesse, proper balance, a master of technique, throwing set punches that come from the floor? No, it doesn't. What it sounds like is an arm puncher.

And those newspaper guys who coined that nickname for him, were sitting ringside.

I too wish we could find a damn film of him.

P.S. If Anyone wants to debunk my statement, by all means please do, but please do not do it with quotes from Pittsburgh newspapers. They are a useless source when evaluating Harry Greb. Greb was Pittsburgh's golden child and their assessment of his fights read like Fox News talking about Donald Trump, ---> utterly useless information.

- - Think Harry cut fighters quite often with his nonstop style. He was also quite athletic in the ring with his movements. Vit was a 6-7, 250lb arm puncher with basically ye auld 1-2 combo comprising 90% of his punch output which was considerable. He had excellent footwork, reach, and defensive nuance with a 90% KO ratio.

All the great punchers had that nuance, but not his size and strength advantages.

[Willie Pep 229]

- - Think Harry cut fighters quite often with his nonstop style. He was also quite athletic in the ring with his movements. Vit was a 6-7, 250lb arm puncher with basically ye auld 1-2 combo comprising 90% of his punch output which was considerable. He had excellent footwork, reach, and defensive nuance with a 90% KO ratio.

All the great punchers had that nuance, but not his size and strength advantages.

OK inyeresting if that is all true. But is it true for sure, or has the media created yet another factoid that is now considered fact?

I have never heard a Greb contemporary praise his footwork or his defensive nuance.

It seems to me there is little to no primary sources that make such statements, but boy he gets better and better with each fanboy biography published.

Wait the years and that SOB will ne able to fly

P.S. The Human Windmill doesn't suggest either of those traits.

[solidman]

It is a tragedy that there is no fight footage for him. We don't really know how great he was.