Biggest Wasted Potential?

[MalevolentBite]

What about Robert easter jr??

[SouthpawRight]

Kell Brook

stayed in Euroidstan for too long beating up random euroids

never fully developed because he didn't fight US blacks and Mexicans soon enough

[Mr Mitts]

Who out of these fighters had the greatest potential but due to outside or internal influences stopped their career from being better than it was?

I am not going to including fighters that did a crime and got sentence to a long prison sentence or someone who got into a freak accident / situation ( illness, murdered, serious bodily injuries outside of the ring, or acts of God).

If the situation was out of the boxers control dont add them here.

1. Zab Judah
2. Jeff Lacy
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Leon Spinks
5. Adrian Broner
6. Andy Ruiz
7. Allen Green
8. Jermall Charlo
9. Kelly pavlik
10. Ray Mercer
11. James DeGale
12. Victor Ortiz
13. Gary Russell Jr.
14. Andre Berto
15. Abner Mares

If you think none of these names fit the bill. Submit your boxer.

Update 3/10/2025. After reading comments. I have added these boxers to the list.

Andrew Golota
Demetrius Andrade
Mikey Garcia
Vernon Forrest

Update 7/11/25

Gervonte Davis - I think he's going to prison this time.

Why is someone like Pavlik such a waste of talent? I mean he got his butt beat and exposed bad so he dropped out. Charlo did not have the character to hang with it either.

I think just about everyone on your list reached their full potential given who they were. Some personalities are not cut out for it and will buckle sooner or later. It boils down to wishing they had a different personality.

[Mr Mitts]

Who out of these fighters had the greatest potential but due to outside or internal influences stopped their career from being better than it was?

I am not going to including fighters that did a crime and got sentence to a long prison sentence or someone who got into a freak accident / situation ( illness, murdered, serious bodily injuries outside of the ring, or acts of God).

If the situation was out of the boxers control dont add them here.

1. Zab Judah
2. Jeff Lacy
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Leon Spinks
5. Adrian Broner
6. Andy Ruiz
7. Allen Green
8. Jermall Charlo
9. Kelly pavlik
10. Ray Mercer
11. James DeGale
12. Victor Ortiz
13. Gary Russell Jr.
14. Andre Berto
15. Abner Mares

If you think none of these names fit the bill. Submit your boxer.

Update 3/10/2025. After reading comments. I have added these boxers to the list.

Andrew Golota
Demetrius Andrade
Mikey Garcia
Vernon Forrest

Update 7/11/25

Gervonte Davis - I think he's going to prison this time.

Why is someone like Pavlik such a waste of talent? I mean he got his butt beat and exposed bad so he dropped out. Charlo did not have the character to hang with it either. He probably sensed he had reached his ceiling

I think just about everyone on your list reached their full potential given who they were. Some personalities are not cut out for it and will buckle sooner or later. It boils down to wishing they had a different personality. What could that body have done with another personality driving, is another way of looking at it.

Mikey Garcia was not wasted talent. He got his butt beaten easily by Spence and realized he was not going anywhere else. He was a great fighter at lightweight if not an ATG. He didn't have the frame for WW.

A true waste of talent was McClellan. He was a waste of a man too but we are not talking about that. Legacy wise I believe he was on course for a big one.

Tyson was on his way to a giant legacy but didn't have the character and personality to keep discipline. That was a waste.

I imagine these guys look back and are hit by regret harder than any opponent hit them. Most boxers must have huge regrets now that they are old enough to see the picture more clearly.

[MalevolentBite]

Kell Brook

stayed in Euroidstan for too long beating up random euroids

never fully developed because he didn't fight US blacks and Mexicans soon enough

I still dont understand Till this Day!!!

Why Eddie allowed his undefeated highly popular welterweight champion to fight GGG that single fight ruined his whole career. Damn shame.

[MalevolentBite]

Why is someone like Pavlik such a waste of talent? I mean he got his butt beat and exposed bad so he dropped out. Charlo did not have the character to hang with it either. He probably sensed he had reached his ceiling

I think just about everyone on your list reached their full potential given who they were. Some personalities are not cut out for it and will buckle sooner or later. It boils down to wishing they had a different personality. What could that body have done with another personality driving, is another way of looking at it.

Mikey Garcia was not wasted talent. He got his butt beaten easily by Spence and realized he was not going anywhere else. He was a great fighter at lightweight if not an ATG. He didn't have the frame for WW.

A true waste of talent was McClellan. He was a waste of a man too but we are not talking about that. Legacy wise I believe he was on course for a big one.

Tyson was on his way to a giant legacy but didn't have the character and personality to keep discipline. That was a waste.

I imagine these guys look back and are hit by regret harder than any opponent hit them. Most boxers must have huge regrets now that they are old enough to see the picture more clearly.

Kelly is on his list because he had a bad substance abuse problem that got worst after the hopkins fight. If he was sober and mentally stable he could had a longer prime career. Stylistically Hopkins was all wrong for him but him, HBO and his management team was drinking the kool-aid too much and forever reason it seemed like Everyone hated Hopkins during that time. He was the underdog for Pavlik and Trinidad fights.

Mikey Garcia is on this list because he sat out for a long time during his prime fighting for money and contract issues with Bob Arum / Top Rank when he should had taken the Mayweather route and just buy out his contract. The only reason why he took the Spence fight was because he was hurting for a major payday he thought he deserved. Which he was right but that lost hurt his legacy. Nobody brings him up anymore. Hes a lost relic of the past greats that didn't get commercial success and thats his fault. Just like Crawford and the reason why Crawford is now fighting canelo. Selling an 0 for money.

I believe everyone this list could had definitely achieved more than what they did. I am not going to go through every name. You will have to pick a name and we can take it from there.

Mike tyson wasnt wasted potential because we never gotten to see his potential. Hes overrated in hindsight. He made money and became an icon off fighting bums. Now if he stepped up and faced Bowe, Lennox, holyfield, Tua, Byrd, Mercer, Morrison in their primes he could haf lost every single one of those fights and then we would had known his potential wasnt nothing but marketing. However since hes such a big icon and boxing corner stone. I will give him grace and leave him off this list but you can make an argument for his prison sentence and etc that stopped his career for being better than it was but thats a cop out because he never faced or tried to face real elite fighters before Douglas and Douglas took it to him. Holyfield took it to Douglas and then took it to Tyson lol.

[SouthpawRight]

I still dont understand Till this Day!!!

Why Eddie allowed his undefeated highly popular welterweight champion to fight GGG that single fight ruined his whole career. Damn shame.

probably Kell not Eddie

Kell trying to outdo Amir's misadventure into 160 VS Saul

[QueensburyRules]

Buster Douglas and Ridpenis Bowe. Such wasted talent that could have achieved so much more.

- - Big Dummy rose to the exact lower level of his double digit IQ before Golota melted him.

Buster was afflicted with premature diabetes syndrome did as well as he could before retiring.

Later he made a good comeback at a greatly reduced state before thankfully retiring for good.

[MalevolentBite]

probably Kell not Eddie

Kell trying to outdo Amir's misadventure into 160 VS Saul

As a promoter. Idk if Kell had his own manager but its in the promoter and managers best interest to protect their investment. Eddie didn't promote GGG so why on greens earth would you sacrifice your star welterweight for only one pay day instead of milking it until you really had to sacrifice him in a 50/50 fight? GGG wasn't a mandatory or 50/50 fight. Him getting beat down by GGG then finished out by Spence made no sense from a business standpoint. I honestly think Eddie learned from that bs decision and its the reason why Berlanga and Boots wete babied under Eddies care, because of Brook.

Bob Arum, Don King, or PBC would had never allowed that bs unless it made crazy financial sense ( like Charlo vs Canelo) Now khan got about 10 million to get knocked out by Canelo. Did Brook get 10 million for GGG?

Thats just like that whole Chad Dawson vs Andre Ward bs. Chad was crazy to think he could drain himself and beat Ward.

[SouthpawRight]

As a promoter. Idk if Kell had his own manager but its in the promoter and managers best interest to protect their investment. Eddie didn't promote GGG so why on greens earth would you sacrifice your star welterweight for only one pay day instead of milking it until you really had to sacrifice him in a 50/50 fight? GGG wasn't a mandatory or 50/50 fight. Him getting beat down by GGG then finished out by Spence made no sense from a business standpoint. I honestly think Eddie learned from that bs decision and its the reason why Berlanga and Boots wete babied under Eddies care, because of Brook.

Bob Arum, Don King, or PBC would had never allowed that bs unless it made crazy financial sense ( like Charlo vs Canelo) Now khan got about 10 million to get knocked out by Canelo. Did Brook get 10 million for GGG?

Thats just like that whole Chad Dawson vs Andre Ward bs. Chad was crazy to think he could drain himself and beat Ward.

Top Soviet Bivol has been match made well under Eddie’s watch

his breakout moment VS Saul had an amazing risk reward ratio

so were the Artur fights especially the rematch

Next whoop Benavidez and Parker’s Cousin Buff Guy Jai