Does anyone still think the old time heavyweights were too small to be competitive in the modern era?

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  • Dr. Z
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    #31
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    Louis did not have two left feet and was not easy to hit. If he were than why couldn't any of the bigger men he fought beat him? Louis was only stifled by speed, which today's fighters don't have compared to the men that troubled Louis.




    Look at the men who gave him trouble, some of which were bum of the month types that were slower and had less range, skills, and hit even harder. Do I really need to list them? He'd be in worse trouble vs modern heavies.​

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      #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      Usyk is bigger how? Not significantly height-wise.

      He does weigh more but again, the old school believed in staying lean and mean in order to fight 15-rounds or even longer. I seriously doubt that fat Tyson Fury could go 15, he is already huffing and puffing by round 7 or so.
      Check the tales of the tapes. I agree with you the Fury 270+ pounds would have a tough time going 15.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Dr. Z

        Usuy at 220- 227 Lbs at 6'3" with and 78" reach is much bigger than Marcano, Louis, or Dempsey.

        Come on now.

        Much bigger.
        All of those guys punch harder than he does and have better wins.

        usyk was afraid of wilder. got stopped by dubious and went life and death with bum chisora.
        let's not pretend he's better than he is lol

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dr. Z

          Check the tales of the tapes. I agree with you the Fury 270+ pounds would have a tough time going 15.
          wladimir-klitschko-tyson-fury-boxing_3382815.jpg?20151129013812.jpg

          This one though, the 27 year old 247lb Tyson Fury was on another level and I would have no doubt he could go 15.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BKM-

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            This one though, the 27 year old 247lb Tyson Fury was on another level and I would have no doubt he could go 15.
            Yes he could. But he beat an old Wlad and ... nobdy who was good.

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              #36
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              Louis did not have two left feet and was not easy to hit. If he were than why couldn't any of the bigger men he fought beat him? Louis was only stifled by speed, which today's fighters don't have compared to the men that troubled Louis.
              De ja vu, ain't it? Into a third decade and they're still trotting out the same ol' BS Not This **** Again 1.jpg

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                #37
                Originally posted by Asmodeus

                All of those guys punch harder than he does and have better wins.

                usyk was afraid of wilder. got stopped by dubious and went life and death with bum chisora.
                let's not pretend he's better than he is lol
                ?????

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                  ?????
                  He’s probably one of those people that feel Usyk got dropped by Dubois with a legit body shot, but then got extra time to recover when it was called a low blow instead.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Biledriver

                    De ja vu, ain't it? Into a third decade and they're still trotting out the same ol' BS Not This **** Again 1.jpg

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z





                      Look at the men who gave him trouble, some of which were bum of the month types that were slower and had less range, skills, and hit even harder. Do I really need to list them? He'd be in worse trouble vs modern heavies.​
                      How would he be in worse trouble? Big men never gave him a problem, this is a fact. And quit with the "bum of the month" stuff. That was made up by the press because Louis was so easily dispatching his opponents. Every fighter has weak spots on his resume, but Louis fought either the first or second most ranked heavies in history if I'm not mistaken. If they were bums of the month what what you call Vits comp, "corpse of the month"?

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