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  • QueensburyRules
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mr Mitts
    He measures up well. However Marquez was slightly better at the lower weight heads up.
    - - Is that Marquez ducked the immediate rematch for a record purse to go fight a series?

    To be stripped of his title so he can go to Indonesia to humiliated hisself to up and coming Chris John for peanut shells?

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    • djtmal
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      #12
      All the respect in the world for Manny Pacquaio.

      In my personal top 10 all time.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Mr Mitts
        He measures up well. However Marquez was slightly better at the lower weight heads up.
        Marquez was also an incredible talent. Both men needed each other to truly bring out how talented each was.

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          #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Is that Marquez ducked the immediate rematch for a record purse to go fight a series?

          To be stripped of his title so he can go to Indonesia to humiliated hisself to up and coming Chris John for peanut shells?
          Yeah Marquez fought Pac once right? You drunken fool.

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          • crold1
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            #15
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            The MAAT has been a long standing series of articles Cliff has made while being here on boxingscene. It’s therefore possible, that the copyrights is with boxingscene idk. Cliff has made a ton of these quantitative (ish) analysis here. I always enjoyed them.
            Thanks for all the kind words. I own the right to all my work but haven’t posted them. the original series is linked at the bottom of the piece. I’m planning to revise them all with the rankings etc.

            Hope all are well

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #16
              Originally posted by billeau2

              Yeah Marquez fought Pac once right? You drunken fool.
              - - Ducked Manny as many x as they fought. Ducked the 5th supermega fight Arum wanted in a Mexico City Bullring with a 100,000 capacity. He needed a notorious BALCO trainer to finally beat Manny in the 4th fight.

              Guess U was still in diapers then, eh?

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              • JAB5239
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                #17
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                - - Ducked Manny as many x as they fought. Ducked the 5th supermega fight Arum wanted in a Mexico City Bullring with a 100,000 capacity. He needed a notorious BALCO trainer to finally beat Manny in the 4th fight.

                Guess U was still in diapers then, eh?
                Marquez was always Manny's kryptonite. All their fight were Razor close. After the 4th fight Marquez probably figured he held the upper hand with the only definitive win in their series. After you fight a man 4 times you can't say he is a ducker. I've always been a big fan of Pac, and I never really cared for JMM (probably because of their rivalry) but give the guy credit..he was a great fighter.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Ducked Manny as many x as they fought. Ducked the 5th supermega fight Arum wanted in a Mexico City Bullring with a 100,000 capacity. He needed a notorious BALCO trainer to finally beat Manny in the 4th fight.

                  Guess U was still in diapers then, eh?
                  Of course it is a BALCO conspiracy...

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    Marquez was always Manny's kryptonite. All their fight were Razor close. After the 4th fight Marquez probably figured he held the upper hand with the only definitive win in their series. After you fight a man 4 times you can't say he is a ducker. I've always been a big fan of Pac, and I never really cared for JMM (probably because of their rivalry) but give the guy credit..he was a great fighter.
                    - - It was only definitive to soft lads like U after a ref admitted to a mistaken scoring that favored Marquez. BALCO Juan ducked the immediate first fight rematch for a record $750 purse to end up stripped of his title where he ends up in Indonesia getting beat by Chris John for $25K.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - - It was only definitive to soft lads like U after a ref admitted to a mistaken scoring that favored Marquez. BALCO Juan ducked the immediate first fight rematch for a record $750 purse to end up stripped of his title where he ends up in Indonesia getting beat by Chris John for $25K.
                      You may not knot this, but in boxing it doesn't get any more definitive than knocking your opponent out cold with one punch. You're welcome.

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