Pacquiao - Measured against all time.

[HisExcellency]

N'dou is not a good fighter at all, beat no ranked fighters and is definitely not a puncher despite his high KO %.

Which is literally the entire point.

Much like Thurman, who has a 0 KO% against ranked fighters, is not a KO artist.

Your using arguments that are irrelevant. He has a 0% KO ratio vs ranked fighters. It's as simple as that. Name any KO artist in history and you CANNOT say that about them because actual KO artists actually knock out ranked fighters, it's kind of a requirement to fit that description.

End of story.

Lol nope...actually YOU'RE the one using arguments that are irrelevant!

A rational person would NOT let the fact that Thurman had zero KO's against 4 ranked opponents (one of whom he dropped multiple times) outweigh the fact that he was a 2x WORLD champion who would've faced plenty of top 10, top 5 and no.1 ranked mandatory challenger's (according to the organisations he represented) in addition to other champions who he dropped or stopped 25 out of 30 times (83%). That in itself MAKES him a puncher!

As for the 4 ranked opponents he faced, a rational person would acknowledge that they were all only stopped ONCE in their entire career's (with 3 of them in their final fight when they were old and at the end of their careers). Guerrero, Garcia & Porter also went the distance with plenty of other top Welterweights too e.g. Mayweather, Spence, Ugas, Matthysse, Brook, Berto, Alexander, Peterson, Ortiz & Broner! They also fought each other and FAILED to get each other out of there too!

Conclusion: Keith Thurman WAS a puncher in his prime!

[djtmal]

Thurman was a natural welterweight and definitely had better than average punching power.

[HisExcellency]

Thurman was a natural welterweight and definitely had better than average punching power.

He either dropped or stopped outright 83% of the 30 fighter’s he defeated and only has 1 loss on his resume. Thurman could definitely CRACK!

[djtmal]

He either dropped or stopped outright 83% of the 30 fighter’s he defeated and only has 1 loss on his resume. Thurman could definitely CRACK!

He was a threat you had to respect his power

[HisExcellency]

He was a threat you had to respect his power

100%.

[IronDanHamza]

Lol nope...actually YOU'RE the one using arguments that are irrelevant!

A rational person would NOT let the fact that Thurman had zero KO's against 4 ranked opponents (one of whom he dropped multiple times) outweigh the fact that he was a 2x WORLD champion who would've faced plenty of top 10, top 5 and no.1 ranked mandatory challenger's (according to the organisations he represented) in addition to other champions who he dropped or stopped 25 out of 30 times (83%). That in itself MAKES him a puncher!

As for the 4 ranked opponents he faced, a rational person would acknowledge that they were all only stopped ONCE in their entire career's (with 3 of them in their final fight when they were old and at the end of their careers). Guerrero, Garcia & Porter also went the distance with plenty of other top Welterweights too e.g. Mayweather, Spence, Ugas, Matthysse, Brook, Berto, Alexander, Peterson, Ortiz & Broner! They also fought each other and FAILED to get each other out of there too!

Conclusion: Keith Thurman WAS a puncher in his prime!

Except that doesn't make him a puncher and I don't know how I can say it another way that's easier for your brain to compute.

If that were the case, Philip Ndou, Victor Ortiz, Brandon Rios, Zab Judah and a long list of other fighters would be deemed KO artists but they are not.

Thurman was a solid puncher, at best. Far from a "KO Artist", it is as simple as that.

All these irrelevant, out of context numbers you're throwing around mean nothing.

[QueensburyRules]

Except that doesn't make him a puncher and I don't know how I can say it another way that's easier for your brain to compute.

If that were the case, Philip Ndou, Victor Ortiz, Brandon Rios, Zab Judah and a long list of other fighters would be deemed KO artists but they are not.

Thurman was a solid puncher, at best. Far from a "KO Artist", it is as simple as that.

All these irrelevant, out of context numbers you're throwing around mean nothing.

- - He started as a KO artist. Like most, when he stepped up competition KOs were much harder to acquire kinda like Edgar Berlanga

[IronDanHamza]

- - He started as a KO artist. Like most, when he stepped up competition KOs were much harder to acquire kinda like Edgar Berlanga

So not a KO artist then.

[QueensburyRules]

So not a KO artist then.

So, good to know your blurring of nuance is as smelly as ever.