Ali vs. Foreman. 50 years ago

[QueensburyRules]

Plimpton never did that. But this may be what you're thinking of. Either way, Ali won fair and square.

- - It's documented better than U is. And I was right in my assessment that he had been drugged just like I was right about Wlad.

Look, I know it's tough to wear the duncecap, but maybe if U l'arned to read, U could catch up to the rest of the world.

[JAB5239]

- - It's documented better than U is. And I was right in my assessment that he had been drugged just like I was right about Wlad.

Look, I know it's tough to wear the duncecap, but maybe if U l'arned to read, U could catch up to the rest of the world.

Lmao....you claim to be right yet offer no evidence. Brilliant!!

I know that you know how hard it is to wear the duncecap. You've been doing it every day of your drunken life.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Documented in scores of dos and bios.

Need U minder to read to U.

[JAB5239]

- - Documented in scores of dos and bios.

Need U minder to read to U.

Post some links, Eunuch.

[BattlingNelson]

- - I first saw the bout on ESPN in the 80s with Foreman as guest. I was in West Texas without means to see the fight even if the few movie theaters had it. My only info was a 1 inch column in the newspaper saying Ali beat Foreman.

They broke the fight down with Foreman being counted out as he was on his feet rising at the 9 sec mark, a quick count in a tough fight.

Next, being a boxing fan I thumbed thru every Ali bio I could knowing his first autobiography was an Alice in Fairyland tale. I find out George Plimpton shouted out inside the opening minute that the fight was fixed. When I saw it first, I thought Foreman was drugged, and later Foreman said Saddler was able to partially drug with a water offering that Foreman was routinely denied for the bulk of his prefight to make him meaner in the ring.

The main thing is from all those bios is that Ali got the shyte beat out of him so bad that Ferdie and Herbert refused the $10Mil 50/50 rematch in Indonesia offer that Ali talked about in his Playboy interview after the fight.

Instead he went to Podunk, Ohio for peanuts to let Wepner beat him up before Ali worn down finally dispatched him. The same Wepner 200px-Chuck_Wepner_2.jpg 3 fight novice Foreman dispatched in a few rounds.

BTW, George in 81 fights went 349 rounds whereas Ali in 61 fights went 548 rounds, the reason he ended up in the pitiable condition he did.

So no offense, but you have absolutely nothing to back up your claims. No confessions. No testimonies. No evidence of any kind. Only stuff that would at a long stretch would be called circumstantial.

[billeau2]

- - It's documented better than U is. And I was right in my assessment that he had been drugged just like I was right about Wlad.

Look, I know it's tough to wear the duncecap, but maybe if U l'arned to read, U could catch up to the rest of the world.

Right? You ole rummy... You have never been right about anything regarding your liquor induced fantastic conspiracies. By probability alone, using a conspiracy for every last explanation makes the whole concept of conspiratorial actions highly improbable. Conspiracies are rare, and when they occur they have corresponding clues to look at. Let me give you an example Ginny: Remember the Los Vegas shooter? How the authorities had "no cameras to see what was developing?" If you look at a photo of the hotel exterior where the shooter's room was, guess what is right there? A CAMERA!!

See how that works? There are other clues that correspond as well, like shooter's state of mind, previous engagements... It all comes together. Your silly notions are by comparison simple excuses because you are wrong, learn the difference.

[Mr Mitts]

By now, I am sure a billion people have watched the fight, but not live. 1 out of every 4 people on earth would have had to be watching! Half the earth hadn't even heard of PPV, or closed circuit television as it was called in those days. So about half the people in the 1rst world have to have been watching live to reach a billion viewers! Just didn't happen. Every theater and arena in the U.S. would have been full and bursting. As it was, some local theaters were enough to satisfy demand.

100 million is probably closer to the real number but likely still inflated. There were fifty million PPV buys worldwide. Unless every PPV buyer sneaked 19 others into the theater under his coat there were not a billion people watching. Make that 39 others, since we are only dealing with the 1rst world.

But wait! Hold on! A little farther down the article does indeed state about 1 billion people were watching the live television broadcast!

I don't remember it being broadcast live other than the closed circuit venue itself. Is it possible that other places in the world watched the fight on free television?

Some of these numbers given are not adding up to sense for me, but they are from Google. How could there be only one hundred million in revenue worldwide with fifty million buys. Buys were not $2 apiece back then. I certainly paid to watch this fight, though I cannot recall where. It probably cost about $20.

Maybe this issue is not exactly settled then without more evidence and explanation. Seemed so simple. Google itself says a billion.

As for Queen, I don't think the gentleman even drinks. What you are getting is him in his natural state, just as he is.

[Biledriver]

As for Queen, I don't think the gentleman even drinks. What you are getting is him in his natural state, just as he is.

Well, I did suggest a few weeks back that Queenie was the victim of an ill-aimed coat hanger in his uterine months that wound up stuck in his prefrontal lobe

[max baer]

Well, I did suggest a few weeks back that Queenie was the victim of an ill-aimed coat hanger in his uterine months that wound up stuck in his prefrontal lobe

queeny is a legend.

[QueensburyRules]

Right? You ole rummy... You have never been right about anything regarding your liquor induced fantastic conspiracies. By probability alone, using a conspiracy for every last explanation makes the whole concept of conspiratorial actions highly improbable. Conspiracies are rare, and when they occur they have corresponding clues to look at. Let me give you an example Ginny: Remember the Los Vegas shooter? How the authorities had "no cameras to see what was developing?" If you look at a photo of the hotel exterior where the shooter's room was, guess what is right there? A CAMERA!!

See how that works? There are other clues that correspond as well, like shooter's state of mind, previous engagements... It all comes together. Your silly notions are by comparison simple excuses because you are wrong, learn the difference.

-Remember JFK? RFK? MLK?

Wuz U in da Kla n that’s did’em in whilst U passed out drunk?