Louis title opponents ranking as of their title shot?

[Willie Pep 229]

You confuse close fights with robberies. A robbery is a fight like Santa Cruz vs Casmoyer, Whitaker vs Chavez, Holyfield vs Valuev, Ottke vs Reid or the worst, Roy jones vs Park Si-Hun.

I had Holnes winning the second fight, but it was very close. Certainly not a robbery.

True abbout the difference between close fights and robberies, but I thought Larry took back the title that night as well. Had the opportunity presented itself, I would have thrown a chair or two.

[Dr. Z]

RE Bold: Joe Louis didn't "change his mind" -- " "allegedly" -- where did pick that nonsense up?

The NYSAC let itself be goaded into changing the the 10 round no-decision into a full 15 round defense after the NBA moved Walcott from a not ranked fighter in April to its most worthy contender in November. The NBA then proceeded to mock the NYSAC (in the press) for staging a 10-round no-decision "exhibition." The NYSAC took the bait and screwed Louis.

Louis didn't "allegedly change his mind" (you actually do just make suff up) he complained bitterly, became depressed and possibly fled camp as he fell off the Earth for two weeks. The Press had to be kept out of camp as his new people ** had to bring Louis around to the reality that he couldn't afford to walk away from the fight.

Trying to hide your conjecture admist facts by simply putting the word "allegedly" in a sentence is only going to work with a dim audience not us.

Louis got abused and the real fans of the day weren't interested in stealing Louis's title because the NYSAC let itself be goaded into changing the fight once they had Louis financially locked in.

Try doing more thinking and less making lists.

** By 1947 Chappy Blackburn and Uncle Mike Jacobs were dead and Roxborough had been squeezed out. Louis was left alone to be abused by the NYSAC.

Originally announced as a non-title 10-round fight on July 31, it was scheduled for November 14; however, the bout was officially changed to a title bout on September 16 after Joe Louis had allegedly changed his mind

This is the press report, not mine and not nonsense.

[Dr. Z]

You confuse close fights with robberies. A robbery is a fight like Santa Cruz vs Casmoyer, Whitaker vs Chavez, Holyfield vs Valuev, Ottke vs Reid or the worst, Roy jones vs Park Si-Hun.

I had Holnes winning the second fight, but it was very close. Certainly not a robbery.

I too had it for Holmes .

42 of 46 sportswriters polled after the fight scored it for Holmes!

When you get that from the press it a sign of a robbery. IMO, Holmes won by 2-3 rounds.

[Dr. Z]

You have a history of being a lying, hating ,bet welching, POS and you haven't changed a bit!

I haven't seen all the fight so ,since I am not clairvoyant I cannot score it!

I made a mistake I typed in 20 instead of 10 . Cauliflower Kid pointed it out I admitted it and corrected it.
32.writers were polled, 21. voted for Walcott 10. for Louis and I. scored it a draw.

Now can we get back to the subject of the thread?
Which is where Louis' challengers were ranked when he fought them?
A question you have totally ignored in your haste to dump some **** on Louis once again!

ROLAMO.

I scored it a draw.- Ivich

You did? Do not attempt to chage the math or text, We know what you said.




You have a histroy of lying, bet wleching you free mason devil worshiping man.

I should report you as an ALT, Tony Mcvey. aka.. " Ivich " But I won't as of right now. Mind you manners.

Do not ruin this thread.

[Willie Pep 229]

This is the press report, not mine and not nonsense.

Interesting. Like to read it. I know after the final date change they closed Louis' camp to the press saying: 'Nothing to see here, Joe is going to only work on his legas now and get ready for the five extra rounds.' [Paraphrase]

Then Louis fell off the map for two weeks. Camp finally reopened and Louis did some light training with the press boys back in.

But I find it hard to believe that Louis was the one who sought the move to 15 rounds.

Circumstances and surrounding events don't make it sound or look like it was Louis' decision.

I suspose they are saved by using the word "allegedly" but I challenge those allegations.

Too often when someone is out of the know they draw a logical, but softly claimed (e.g. allegedly) conclusion that fills in the hole in their knowledge.

Would like to see the press release. Strange wording for a press release. But this is prize fighting so anything/everything is possible.