ESPN best of the 21st century

[QueensburyRules]

I'm sorry, weren't you saying something about Vits being in the top10 p4p by The Ring?

I didn't think so.

- - U never thought. U slobber...

[JAB5239]

- - U never thought. U slobber...

Another lame and unfounded claim so you can slobber on your heroes. Pathetic.

[QueensburyRules]

Another lame and unfounded claim so you can slobber on your heroes. Pathetic.

- - U zeroes ain't my heroes, so keep to U pig sty slopping U pigs...

[JAB5239]

- - U zeroes ain't my heroes, so keep to U pig sty slopping U pigs...

I'm not the one who falsely claimed Vits was rated p4p and am trying to make him seem better than he was compared to fighters who beat better fighters.

[QueensburyRules]

I'm not the one who falsely claimed Vits was rated p4p and am trying to make him seem better than he was compared to fighters who beat better fighters.

- - I ain't the one sleeping wif his pigs after he slops them. Is that where U change U BarneyBigBoys?

[JAB5239]

- - I ain't the one sleeping wif his pigs after he slops them. Is that where U change U BarneyBigBoys?

Lol. No, you're the one defending Vits as a p4p great in the 21st century and making things up a out him being Ring rated p4p.

You don't have a leg to stand on here which is why you keep posting insults and trash. You can't defend your opinion because you simply have no defense for it, because it's ridiculous.

[Willow The Wisp]

Lol. No, you're the one defending Vits as a p4p great in the 21st century and making things up a out him being Ring rated p4p.

You don't have a leg to stand on here which is why you keep posting insults and trash. You can't defend your opinion because you simply have no defense for it, because it's ridiculous.

It seems to me, In just the span of 35 Years, we have witnessed a fair number of better Heavyweights than Vitali.

1. Lennox Lewis, UK
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Evander Holyfield, US
6. Mike Tyson, US
7. Ridk. Bowe, US
8. Anthony Joshua, UK
9. Deontay Wilder, US
10. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
11. Ike Ibeabuchi, NIG
12. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
13. George Foreman, US
14. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
15. Larry Holmes, US
16. David Tua, AUS
17. Frank Bruno, UK
18. Oliver McCall, US
19. Andrew Golota, POL
20. Hasim Rahman, US

[JAB5239]

It seems to me, In just the span of 35 Years, we have witnessed a fair number of better Heavyweights than Vitali.

1. Lennox Lewis, UK
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Evander Holyfield, US
6. Mike Tyson, US
7. Ridk. Bowe, US
8. Anthony Joshua, UK
9. Deontay Wilder, US
10. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
11. Ike Ibeabuchi, NIG
12. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
13. George Foreman, US
14. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
15. Larry Holmes, US
16. David Tua, AUS
17. Frank Bruno, UK
18. Oliver McCall, US
19. Andrew Golota, POL
20. Hasim Rahman, US

I wouldn't rank Zhang higher yet, or Ibeabuchi at all. Like Vits, Ike's career was largely build on what could have been instead of what actually was. His wins over Tua and Byrd are good wins, but that it. Both were top ten contenders at the time but largely untested against top tier competition rather showing themselves to be some of the best prospects up until that point. My biggest question about Ibeabuchi was how would he do against a big, tall heavyweight with power? Byrd was small but elusive with no heavyweight power and Ike caught up to him. Tua was shorter than Byrd and primarily a one handed fighter. How would he have done against Golota who could fight, Rahman, or even an iron chinned Ray Mercer who could punch, let alone the elite fighters from the late 90's? To many what ifs for me, and I don't rate on what I think a fighter could have done.

Vits is in the same boat, but he did win a strap and fought more solid comp (that's not really saying much) in my opinion. Other than those observations I think your list is pretty spot on.

[QueensburyRules]

Lol. No, you're the one defending Vits as a p4p great in the 21st century and making things up a out him being Ring rated p4p.

You don't have a leg to stand on here which is why you keep posting insults and trash. You can't defend your opinion because you simply have no defense for it, because it's ridiculous.

- - I said specifically that he and Wlad appeared on Ring p4p ratings, Wlad for quite a long time not that you can read and understand English. Better suited slopping pigs and passing out Mickey Finns when U can rather attempting to understand that well beyond U intellect.

[JAB5239]

- - I said specifically that he and Wlad appeared on Ring p4p ratings, Wlad for quite a long time not that you can read and understand English. Better suited slopping pigs and passing out Mickey Finns when U can rather attempting to understand that well beyond U intellect.

So you made up the part about Vits ever being rated p4p, correct? Or do you have proof of this? This is a thread about the best p4p fighters of the 21st century. Did you miss that part? Vits isn't one of them.