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Here is Usyk's professional record.
One will notice he did not even fight a heavyweight until 2019, that would be 5 years ago... and his first few heavyweight fights were hardly dominant. He beat Witherspoon, unsensationally and almost lost to Chisora, something HE acknowledges!!!
He then beat Joshua in a trilogy, won a contraversal decision against Dubois, and won a close fight with Fury. Usyk as of yet is not even a dominant heavyweight, much less a dominant force in the division for twelve years.
Get your crayons out and trace the top of the chart I pasted from Wiki for you! Like a big boy!! Use the purple crayon.Viewership22 Win 22–0 Tyson Fury SD 12 18 May 2024 Kingdom Arena, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia Retained WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, IBO, and The Ring heavyweight titles;
Won WBC heavyweight title21 Win 21–0 Daniel Dubois KO 9 (12), 1:48 26 Aug 2023 Stadion Wrocław, Wrocław, Poland Retained WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, IBO, and The Ring heavyweight titles 20 Win 20–0 Anthony Joshua SD 12 20 Aug 2022 King Abdullah Sports City, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Retained WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, and IBO heavyweight titles;
Won vacant The Ring heavyweight title19 Win 19–0 Anthony Joshua UD 12 25 Sep 2021 Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, London, England Won WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, and IBO heavyweight titles 18 Win 18–0 Derek Chisora UD 12 31 Oct 2020 The SSE Arena, London, England Won WBO Inter-Continental heavyweight title 17 Win 17–0 Chazz Witherspoon RTD 7 (12), 3:00 12 Oct 2019 Wintrust Arena, Chicago, Illinois, US 16 Win 16–0 Tony Bellew KO 8 (12), 2:00 10 Nov 2018 Manchester Arena, Manchester, England Retained WBA (Super), WBC, IBF, WBO, and The Ring cruiserweight titles 15 Win 15–0 Murat Gassiev UD 12 21 Jul 2018 Olympic Stadium, Moscow, Russia Retained WBC and WBO cruiserweight titles;
Won WBA (Super), IBF and vacant The Ring cruiserweight titles;
World Boxing Super Series: cruiserweight final14 Win 14–0 Mairis Briedis MD 12 27 Jan 2018 Arēna Rīga, Riga, Latvia Retained WBO cruiserweight title;
Won WBC cruiserweight title;
World Boxing Super Series: cruiserweight semi-final13 Win 13–0 Marco Huck TKO 10 (12), 2:12 9 Sep 2017 Max-Schmeling-Halle, Berlin, Germany Retained WBO cruiserweight title;
World Boxing Super Series: cruiserweight quarter-final12 Win 12–0 Michael Hunter UD 12 8 Apr 2017 MGM National Harbor, Oxon Hill, Maryland, US Retained WBO cruiserweight title 11 Win 11–0 Thabiso Mchunu TKO 9 (12), 1:53 17 Dec 2016 The Forum, Inglewood, California, US Retained WBO cruiserweight title 10 Win 10–0 Krzysztof Głowacki UD 12 17 Sep 2016 Ergo Arena, Gdańsk, Poland Won WBO cruiserweight title 9 Win 9–0 Pedro Rodriguez TKO 7 (12), 1:57 12 Dec 2015 Palace of Sports, Kyiv, Ukraine Retained WBO Inter-Continental cruiserweight title 8 Win 8–0 Johnny Muller TKO 3 (12), 2:59 29 Aug 2015 Palace of Sports, Kyiv, Ukraine Retained WBO Inter-Continental cruiserweight title 7 Win 7–0 Andrey Knyazev TKO 8 (10), 2:24 18 Apr 2015 Palace of Sports, Kyiv, Ukraine Retained WBO Inter-Continental cruiserweight title 6 Win 6–0 Danie Venter TKO 9 (10), 2:29 13 Dec 2014 Palace of Sports, Kyiv, Ukraine Retained WBO Inter-Continental cruiserweight title 5 Win 5–0 Daniel Bruwer TKO 7 (10), 2:55 4 Oct 2014 Arena Lviv, Lviv, Ukraine Won vacant WBO interim Inter-Continental cruiserweight title 4 Win 4–0 Cesar David Crenz KO 4 (8), 2:19 31 May 2014 Sports Palace, Odesa, Ukraine 3 Win 3–0 Ben Nsafoah KO 3 (8), 1:43 26 Apr 2014 König Pilsener Arena, Oberhausen, Germany 2 Win 2–0 Epifanio Mendoza TKO 4 (6), 2:10 7 Dec 2013 Ice Arena TEC Terminal, Brovary, Ukraine 1 Win 1–0 Felipe Romero TKO 5 (6), 1:36 9 Nov 2013 Palace of Sports, Kyiv, Ukraine
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Come on Bill . . . Waiting out the effect of a low blow isn't controversial. He dominated Dubois; made him quit.
Only a rematch with AJ.
Usyk may have just been a gentleman regarding Chisora. Chisora's own Wikipedia page even states he couldn't match Usyk's pacing and wasn't competitive at the end.
I see some domination of HWs. Of course not his whole career, as it is being suggested; but certainly enough to warrant a title shot.
IMHO he did earn his title shot at Fury the hard way.
He climbed his way up against a reasonable ladder of fighters; gave a rematch when it was appropriate; and stepped up to beat Fury.
P.S. You know I am an anti-punch count/no decision guy. But I have no problem seeing Usyk as the better man that night. He beat Fury. That's the kind of dominant decision I can respect.
Belaboring my point:
Ali-Frazier I . . . To me that was a two round victory for Frazier. What Angelo Dundee called the "terrible 11th" and the KD in the 15th.
Had those two rounds not occurred, and just looked like the other 13 rounds, I would have called that fight a "do over." The decision would have been a plethora of meaningless 10-9 scores.
But, no, that decision I respected. I saw a better man that night in Frazier.
I respected the Usyk-Fury decision as well. It was Usyk's night, not Fury's.Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-12-2024, 05:04 PM.Comment
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- - Usyk earned an Olympic Gold Medal in the traditional weight class, heavyweight that Joe Frazier and George Foreman fought in.
And turned pro at a fight weight that greatly exceeds most all Heavy Champs in existence, and been whoopin'em nonstop ever since. Maybe they, you know, the El Puerco Son of Jose will create a Pink Light in the Loafers for your U Heavy Zeroes...
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Olympic Gold Medal Wow!!!
- - Usyk earned an Olympic Gold Medal in the traditional weight class, heavyweight that Joe Frazier and George Foreman fought in.
And turned pro at a fight weight that greatly exceeds most all Heavy Champs in existence, and been whoopin'em nonstop ever since. Maybe they, you know, the El Puerco Son of Jose will create a Pink Light in the Loafers for your U Heavy Zeroes...
Exceeds? In other words: "Because my ridiculous argument depends on fluff, like including olympic performance, and needing something to create more opponents, I will come up with the silly idea that Usyk fought in a division with more talent!" Then I can say: "See if we say this division is better, and dilute professional with amateur fights, I can be right!"
Yeah whoopin them for a few years non stop! Not twelve years...
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I have no bone to pick about Usyk's talents. As a matter of fact, my posting on the Chisora fight was very sympathetic to Usyk. I felt/feel like he tried to change aspects of his approach, including moving in longer lines, less angles, being more careful, etc... I felt that he took this to heart and fought his natural way subsequently.
Again, Usyk checks all the boxes and has every right to be seen as dominant, if he can beat Fury in the rematch. He certainly won the first fight, even if it was close. If he does beat Fury then he is present top dog.Comment
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