Tunney & The Absence Of Black Fighters On His Resume.

[Dr. Z]

Okay
Wills Wins.Under 32
Fred Fulton 29
Kid Norfolk28
Bartley Madden31
J L Johnson 22
J L Johnson 25
Homer Smith 28
Battling Jim Johnson27
Battling Jim Johnson29
Sam Langford 28
Sam Langford 30
Sam Langford 30
Sam Langford 30
Jeff Clark 29
Weinert 28
Floyd Johnson 25
Sam McVey31

Tunney's Wins Under 32
Weinert 26
Weinert 27
Spalla 30
Madden 24
GAMR SET & MATCH!

You forgot a fighter named Jack. I wonder why? And a HOF fighter named Carpentier. And a fighter named Harry. And Tom Hereney. There are some other guys which you forgot about... In fact you forgot a lot of boxing or never knew much. Pick one.

Game, set, match? You are not even playing my game. Stop while you are far behind.

[JAB5239]

I am saying Tunney was the best man fighting above 174 pounds from 1923-1928. Not Dempsey or Wills.

I would pick Tunney to beat Wills.



Give me Wills top 5 wins, with the ages and condition of his opponents. This could get interesting.

I have seen Wills on film and he disapoints.

Doesn't matter who you would pick, Wills was the most deserving challenger.

[JAB5239]

And being the most deserving fighter doesn't matter either. Never has.

How many heavyweight champions didn't fight the best challenger available for nearly their entire reign? I don't care how strong or weak the era, its gotta be a very short list, and a matk against them for doing so. How many can you think of?

[JAB5239]

Jack Johnson

That's it? Johnson to should be criticized for not fighting the best, and I have done that on numerous occasions. Is that all?? Because if that's it than Dempsey surely deserves the criticism for not fighting Wills.

[Ivich]

You forgot a fighter named Jack. I wonder why? And a HOF fighter named Carpentier. And a fighter named Harry. And Tom Hereney. There are some other guys which you forgot about... In fact you forgot a lot of boxing or never knew much. Pick one.

Game, set, match? You are not even playing my game. Stop while you are far behind.

I didn't think it necessary to add Dempsey as its one of the most famous fights ever,but yes 31years old ,3 years out of the ring Dempsey.
I did forget Heeney but so has everyone else! lol

Carpentier was a light heavy and washed up.
Greb was a middleweight .

We are talking about their respective wins at heavyweight!
Which other guys at heavyweight did Tunney beat that you think are worth including?

Name them.
ps You cant have Gibbons he was 34 and having his last fight.
Under 32 you said.

So Tunney has

Dempsey 1 st fight 31 and 3 years out of the ring

Madden 36-24-7

Weinert x2 57-12-8.

Risko 19-7-0

Who on Tunneys record equals a 28 and 30 years old Langford with 2 good eyes?

A 29 years old Firpo?

A 31 years old McVey?

A 29 years old Fulton?

I WIN YOU LOSE!

[Ivich]

Corbett not fighting Jackson.

Sullivan not fighting Jackson
Tunney not fighting Wills,Norfolk, & Godfrey.

[Ivich]

Tunney not fighting Sharkey.

Tunney's get out was Sharkey drawing with Heeney.

[Ivich]

Jack Johnson

Johnson signed to defend against both Langford and McVey in Australia and posted a cash bond to do so,when he jumped bail ,the promoter cancelled the fights.
Johnson twice signed to defend against Jeannette in NY and posted a cash bond,the NYAC vetoed the fight, statements from all parties can be found in Pollack's 2nd Vol Jack Johnson The Reign.

[Dr. Z]

Jack Johnson

Yeah him.

[Ivich]

Yeah him.

How about your Tunney v Wills comparison? You've gone deaf on that! lol