Did any fighter ever look more spectacular than Roy Jones Jr?

[DooGee#33]

he was a great fighter who also had great match making.

note I said he was a great fighter.

you combine the 2, great fighter and great matchmaking and you get an unbeatable looking fighter.

Jones edged Hopkins, who wasnât ready for Jones at that point in his career, what most people donât know, this fight was actually quite close, with hopkins turning it up late. Jones had the commentating in the bag and the flash to sell the win. Which perhaps he edged, but the fact is Hopkins really deserved a rematch.

with Toney, probably Jones greatest victory - we still gotta mention Toney was killing himself to make the weight. This fight Toney struggled to find Jones, but make no Mistake, Jones seriously struggled to hit Toney. Once again, commentating in the bag for Jones. Had Toney been in good shape the version a few years back, it could have been a different fight.

Actually James Toney had just moved up to 168 about a year or so before that fight. He looked sharp against Barkley and defeated Prince Charles Williams. I don't know how much of that is Toney's reaching for an excuse.

Toney was certainly struggling to make 160 for awhile but if he was living right 168 should have been just right for him at that time. I.always felt like Toney was intimidated by Roy Jones.

[DooGee#33]

Yes, that's all true. Joe was naturally better than Ray, didn't need peds or big artificial muscles, he was a natural born fighter. The media always cheated Joe out of his credit. He made Lacy look like nothing but Lacy was very highly regarded and a legit champ. But Joe made him look like nothing and instead of giving Joe his just due credit, they said Lacy was a bum. Then he beat Roy and Hopkins and the narrative there is they were both well past their prime when Joe picked to fight them. More BS. RJ looked better and had the media hype but Super Joe was actually better, his record speaks for itself. The boxing media has an agenda to favor black fighters over white fighters. Klitschkos didn't their just due credit for dominating either, the narrative to diminish the Ks was, "Oh, they just dominated a very weak era..." More BS because there is no such thing as a weak era, every era is tough. Just certain stars in certain eras get more hype and glory and have more charisma.

Ancient Roy Jones put Calzaghe on the canvas prime Roy would have finished him. Jones is the best ever at 168.

[QueensburyRules]

Ancient Roy Jones put Calzaghe on the canvas prime Roy would have finished him. Jones is the best ever at 168.

- - It was an awkward forearm shot, not a real punch. Joe was down in the 2nd rd vs Byron Mitchell and turned him into a hash.

Roy wouldn't travel and Allegedly wouldn't pay Roy enough anyway, so Joe traveled first chance.

Roy was Joe's last fight, but not so your Ancient Roy who was ranked #5 then and ranked for some years afterwards.

What grade was U in then?

[Anthony342]

Not for me. Not for any period of time like RJJ.

I've seen guys look great on a night. I've seen guys look great on offense, defense or ring IQ-wise specifically for awhile. I've never seen a guy who looked great overall for as long as I've seen RJJ do it.

Maybe for that period of time. But yeah, like others have said comparing his competition to others. And for looking good, what about Robinson, Leonard, Ali, De La Hoya, Pacquiao? Although Manny we saw more of later on on American TV and against tough competition. Arguello, perhaps? And let's not forget Brian "Eye of the Mullet" Sutherland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00kgj8cC_c8

[Slugfester]

- - It was an awkward forearm shot, not a real punch. Joe was down in the 2nd rd vs Byron Mitchell and turned him into a hash.

Roy wouldn't travel and Allegedly wouldn't pay Roy enough anyway, so Joe traveled first chance.

Roy was Joe's last fight, but not so your Ancient Roy who was ranked #5 then and ranked for some years afterwards.

What grade was U in then?

Not a single person seems to agrees with you, halfwit. Calzaghe was a champion and coward, not an ATG. He looked for easy fights and got 'em, protecting a meaningless 0. His big claim to fame was beating the massively overrated Lacey, who proved it later for ever afterwards.. Cuffin' Joe might be the top Joke-of-a-champion ever. Certainly a contender for that title. His fans, like you, are a riot. Your game is to take obvious falsehoods and keep repeating endlessly. ******ity annoys people. That is your whole bag--not part of it. The consensus opinion is he was not much, merely the best in a rotten division in a rotten reign.

[Anthony342]

Not a single person seems to agrees with you, halfwit. Calzaghe was a champion and coward, not an ATG. He looked for easy fights and got 'em, protecting a meaningless 0. His big claim to fame was beating the massively overrated Lacey, who proved it later for ever afterwards.. Cuffin' Joe might be the top Joke-of-a-champion ever. Certainly a contender for that title. His fans, like you, are a riot. Your game is to take obvious falsehoods and keep repeating endlessly. ******ity annoys people. That is your whole bag--not part of it. The consensus opinion is he was not much, merely the best in a rotten division in a rotten reign.

Exactly. I mean, he is a total halfwit. But what about the Kessler win? Isn't that considered a good one? I've heard Calzaghe wasn't really taken seriously outside his home country until after that fight. Just asking, since I don't know much about Joe myself. To get knocked down by past prime Jones and Hopkins doesn't say much about him though either. Also why undefeated...is overrated. Usually means you fought in a weak era, a weak division or, like Ali once said, didn't fight everyone. And I'm even a Marciano fan. But other than Marciano and maybe Floyd, nobody else really notable went unbeaten. The closest maybe were Dmitry Pirog and Ike Ibeabuchi, but both went 20-0 and had their careers cut short, by injury and prison time, respectively.

[DooGee#33]

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Roy was Joe's last fight, but not so your Ancient Roy who was ranked #5 then and ranked for some years afterwards.

What grade was U in then?

None this changes the fact that Joe was down and really hurt. Roy wasn't the same guy he had been during his prime. Jones is the Gold Standard at 168. Andre Ward might be next or perhaps Joe.

Your starting to stutter .

[DooGee#33]

Exactly. I mean, he is a total halfwit. But what about the Kessler win? Isn't that considered a good one? I've heard Calzaghe wasn't really taken seriously outside his home country until after that fight. Just asking, since I don't know much about Joe myself. To get knocked down by past prime Jones and Hopkins doesn't say much about him though either. Also why undefeated...is overrated. Usually means you fought in a weak era, a weak division or, like Ali once said, didn't fight everyone. And I'm even a Marciano fan. But other than Marciano and maybe Floyd, nobody else really notable went unbeaten. The closest maybe were Dmitry Pirog and Ike Ibeabuchi, but both went 20-0 and had their careers cut short, by injury and prison time, respectively.

I thought the Kessler win was solid. Andre Ward came along and beat Kessler worse. Kessler had potential but he never could handle any lateral movement.

[Anthony342]

None this changes the fact that Joe was down and really hurt. Roy wasn't the same guy he had been during his prime. Jones is the Gold Standard at 168. Andre Ward might be next or perhaps Joe.

Your starting to stutter .

This is why most people either have him on ignore or actually just ignore him on here.

[IronDanHamza]

Exactly. I mean, he is a total halfwit. But what about the Kessler win? Isn't that considered a good one? I've heard Calzaghe wasn't really taken seriously outside his home country until after that fight. Just asking, since I don't know much about Joe myself. To get knocked down by past prime Jones and Hopkins doesn't say much about him though either. Also why undefeated...is overrated. Usually means you fought in a weak era, a weak division or, like Ali once said, didn't fight everyone. And I'm even a Marciano fan. But other than Marciano and maybe Floyd, nobody else really notable went unbeaten. The closest maybe were Dmitry Pirog and Ike Ibeabuchi, but both went 20-0 and had their careers cut short, by injury and prison time, respectively.

Unsure why you'd say "maybe Floyd" when out of Marciano and Mayweather Floyd is the significantly more notable.

It's more like Floyd, and maybe Marciano.