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Your a nut! But you are consistent... Valuev was the best fighter, then the Klits, then maybe Adamki? Ginsburg be damned!! You are Hoffman material! leary! Watch the room melt much?
Liston would make your fighter list look like the villians in the original Batman theme song! Liston would beat them all in a day you nutter
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Your a nut! But you are consistent... Valuev was the best fighter, then the Klits, then maybe Adamki? Ginsburg be damned!! You are Hoffman material! leary! Watch the room melt much?
Liston would make your fighter list look like the villians in the original Batman theme song! Liston would beat them all in a day you nutter
Gonna need Harry Potter.Comment
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Its documented in Pollack's Jeffries book that he was measured by a doctor at an even six feet.
Why do you list Jeffries in worst the possible way? You are wrong again Jeffries was routinely listed above 6 feet with a reach of 76 or 76.5" You can look it up and learn. I can post several measuremments for you.
His chest measurements are greater too.
He is similar sized to a super heavyweight on many parts of the tale of the tape. Now box rec lists his reach correctly as does wiki ( a better source edited by historians ) and the rest of his fights in the new papers.
https://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/...LOT113215.aspx
At least you stopped trying comparing him physically to Adamek.
Jeffries' first size was close to Liston's at 13.5" with is again way bigger than average.
Box rec and Tracy Callis are wrong.
I took Jeffries reach from a tale of the tape,his chest was 45 in which for a man who was under 224lbs ,when in top shape is a big chest,bigger for example than Liston's or Max Baer's.
Adamek is 6 feet one and a half inches tall and his weight has ranged from174lbs to 226lbs. I never mentioned his measurements and do not know them, I said he was a similar size to Jeffries,which in his heavyweight days he was.
Now if you want to occupy yourself, stalking my posts, trying to nit pick at imaginary errors fill your boots.
Just don't derail Billeau's thread as you did mine.Last edited by Ivich; 08-29-2023, 09:17 AM.Comment
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As opposed to your unimpeachable source materials? Ivich makes an effort, as I try to do, to give a source for, a trace if you will, for a contention, so someone can follow the lead if they so desire.
Here is the result of that: When Ivich stated those measures? I thought they looked a little light in the height as well, but I KNEW, if I had to bet my last dollar, that Ivich did not make them up... I counted on the fact that he had a source for the measurement. And sure enough...
You can always argue against a source, but at least give a valid reason. Ivich, when pressed, used a doctor as a source... As opposed to taking exxagerated claims at face value.
I always try to give a source because I often make mistakes, and someone can then see where the mistake was made, and I can learn something, this is the way knowledge should work... in any field. We may, with Quantum computer machines actually be able to reconstruct enough data, IF the data is good, to reconstruct some great fights and even create hypothetical match ups that can be given a prediction based on real data, with advances in AI. Then you can prove that Valuev would be the best heavyweight ever!!!
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Box Rec, Callis and Wiki are all wrong? No dude, you are wrong and spreading lies. They all say Jeffries reach was 76.5"
I never derailed and of Bill threads. Don''t speak for him or lie. You however force the mod's to close yours you own. Several times.
I can show you Jeffries chest measurements too, you ignoramus.
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