The Physiology of Punch Resistance

[billeau2]

Before darwinism, I’m curious what the intellectuals of the day described traits or generational inheritance.

Caesar would always speak of cultures and how they developed, he even said so himself that civilization (confined quarters and a diet of mostly carbs is what made the romans shorter. The legionaires were generally made up of specially selected individuals from all races (under roman rule) they weren’t all italian. The min height in the legions was 5 ft 10 unless the person showed particularly robust genetics, exceptions could be made.

then my previous point, how he described the northern germans as very large and muscular as well as confident. He then stated it was because of living lawlessly and eating meat + fighting constantly all the time (weaker ones would be killed off or not even make it past youth). Before anyone laughs at this notion, it’s proven that dogs when left to live without rules (farm dogs for example). Given proper food, live much, much longer than domesticated/house dogs. Obviously not taking into account environmental dangers. I believe the worlds oldest dog was just over 30 (still alive) its owners said he never had a leash in its entire life and lived on a farm by its own accord. Even had its own door to get into the house.

Well modern biological theory is first documented probably under Aristotle, then Lamar... I forget how to spell his name lol... But that was where traits were used to look at creatures. Aristotle first looked at mobility, then subsequently referred to features. Some of the empirical stuff is intuitive, but with biology one could look at the development of a group and traits together. All Darwin did, and I say "all" in no way to say it was trivial lol, was to find an environment where creatures developed different traits from being isolated, and eventually the mechanism of action came to him. So take a trait like largeness. in isolation why does a tortoise and a lizard (Gallaptiose Islands) get so big? Because there are no apex predators that eliminate the animals sufficiently to cause certain traits to dissapear. Big lizards in most environments are slower, more visible... Darwin was able to look at plants and animals and see that in a certain environment more traits flourished...

The leap of faith (being ironic here lol) and the reason I maintain that traits are never "given" to an organism, was figuring out HOW. From there? there really is no way creatures are given anything more than perhaps optimal nutrition... but how would an optimal environment cause changes? Make creatures evolve? We had undeerstanding of how to optimize and control for traits... Pea Plants! Fruit Fries... But that is different... That is the range that develops where a creature has optimal, to suboptimal conditions, how does a creature change from there? The conclusion is as ingenius as Neuton's alleged Apple... if the environment cannot "give" it certainly can take. Those traits that are counterproductive can be eliminated through natural selection. It made sense because it explains why things like moniter lizards grew so large in isolation. The bigger animals were not taken out in the absence of predators. And this also explains why animals like insects were so large in prehistoric times: It turns out that size is often a trait that is counter to survival. Bigger animals need more resources, etc.

[GhostofDempsey]

Another factor to consider is a fighter’s ability to roll with a punch. LaMotta had a reputation for having a granite chin. The way he explained it was that he trained to catch a punch and roll with it. The way a baseball catcher catches a fastball, as he catches the pitch he is bringing the glove in towards his body in an effort to take some of the sting out of the pitch. He said he did the same with punches, but as he got older his reflexes were failing him and he could no longer time the punches to effectively catch them and roll with them.

[Bundana]

Skulls def got thinner.

And over the last 100 years, you say. So I ask again... how about telling us, where you get this from?

[BattlingNelson]

- - How do you explain Valuev?

BigFoot?

Same defect as Jaws from James Bond and Andre the giant.

[BattlingNelson]

Don't agree with the bold face.

E.g. Hairy Arabs and bald Scandinavians. Hair protects from the sun not the cold. We need Vitman D from the sun. Northern Europeans became bald because protection from the sun was no longer needed and conversely the northern Europeans needed more sun-skin interaction.

Now of course these are all surface adjustments and not relative to evolutionary mutations.

I agree with your assessment that evolutionary mutations (advancements) are not caused by environmental factors but do instead weed out the less successful mutations. But there are surface (appearance) changes that are environmentally related and happen quickly (evolutionary wise).

How bone density splits that difference I don't know.

Scandinavians gets bald because or their high ***drive, supreme ***ual endurance and gigantic members. The balder the larger willie....

[Ivich]

Same defect as Jaws from James Bond and Andre the giant.

Agromelagy

[Ivich]

The only thing I feel confident in is that huge heads seem to be able to absorb punches better. I don't know if its shape is important too.

The challenge is to find us a pinhead who can really take a punch. Are there some? I don't think so, but I don't know either. Maybe I would get surprised.

First of all, a large skull is supposed to be thicker. On the other hand, why waste material and make a tiny skull thick.

My conjecture is that modern tiny human skulls are naturally thinner too. This is similar to a mathematical conjecture: you only need to find one counterexample to prove the conjecture wrong.


Please help me find such a pinhead boxer, will you, or prove me wrong?

Huge heads eg Baby Arizmendi.Jake Lamotta.
Tony Zale was once asked his opinion of the term glass jaws,he said," I haven't seen many glass jaws, but I have seem quite a few,glass hearts."

[Willie Pep 229]

Scandinavians gets bald because or their high ***drive, supreme ***ual endurance and gigantic members. The balder the larger willie....

Is the wishful thinking or bragging?

[Dr. Z]

The only thing I feel confident in is that huge heads seem to be able to absorb punches better. I don't know if its shape is important too.

The challenge is to find us a pinhead who can really take a punch. Are there some? I don't think so, but I don't know either. Maybe I would get surprised.

First of all, a large skull is supposed to be thicker. On the other hand, why waste material and make a tiny skull thick.

My conjecture is that modern tiny human skulls are naturally thinner too. This is similar to a mathematical conjecture: you only need to find one counterexample to prove the conjecture wrong.


Please help me find such a pinhead boxer, will you, or prove me wrong?

A big head and neck tend to help a guys take a punch. IMO some b@lls and a good fighting heart matter as well. Good thread.

[Slugfester]

There could be more to the physiology of punch resistance than we have mentioned. A couple of easy tasks should be to locate a large headed man with a glass jaw, and pinheads with excellent jaws. The latter chore might have already been accomplished with Hagler. Does anyone know Chuvalo's cranial measurements?

Which really tall, thin men are known for legendary chins? Are there as many legendary chins per capita as among shorter stockier men?