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  • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    No, he did not. Tua is on the short reached under 73" reach can't box list.
    Heavyweight Champs with similar reaches to Tua
    Sharkey 72
    Charles 73
    Frazier 73
    Marciano 68
    Patterson 71
    Johansson 72
    Dempsey 73
    Corbett 73
    Fitzsimmons 71 1/2



    As far as I can ascertain
    The following heavyweight champions fought a total of 2 southpaws between them
    Patterson =1 Vic Brown
    Johansson =1Aldo Pellegrini
    Sonny Liston= 0
    Joe Frazier = 0
    Last edited by Ivich; 07-24-2023, 12:05 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
      The Following Masons signed the Declaration Of Independence.
      John Han****
      William Ellery
      Joseph Hewes
      William Whipple
      George Walton
      Robert Treat Paine
      William Hooper
      Benjamin Franklin
      Richard Stockton
      George Washington

      About18 Presidents are known to have been Masons.
      It is not known how many were *****philes or devil worshippers.
      We are still waiting for Dr Z's list to confirm this.
      would imagine it is in the Vatican library...should turn up in a jiffy.
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      • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

        would imagine it is in the Vatican library...should turn up in a jiffy.
        I think you're right there... LOL
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        • Originally posted by Ivich View Post
          Heavyweight Champs with similar reaches to Tua
          Sharkey 72
          Charles 73
          Frazier 73
          Marciano 68
          Patterson 71
          Johansson 72
          Dempsey 73
          Corbett 73
          Fitzsimmons 71 1/2



          As far as I can ascertain
          The following heavyweight champions fought a total of 2 southpaws between them
          Patterson =1 Vic Brown
          Johansson =1Aldo Pellegrini
          Sonny Liston= 0
          Joe Frazier = 0


          You love to list fighters who fought over 80 years ago. Why??? I think Lennox Lewis would have a Gene Tunney like record against such men. IMO Lewis avoided ranked southpaws, and as far as I know never fought ANY. Again I was mistaken to list Ocasio. He was a small good boxer type

          No comment on your attempt to list the southpaws, except for the Patterson, Johansson, Liston all lost the sub 200 pound men. As you agree Frazier avoided big punchers for the most part, save Foreman in title matches where he bounced Joe like a basketball.​

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          • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post



            You love to list fighters who fought over 80 years ago. Why??? I think Lennox Lewis would have a Gene Tunney like record against such men. IMO Lewis avoided ranked southpaws, and as far as I know never fought ANY. Again I was mistaken to list Ocasio. He was a small good boxer type

            No comment on your attempt to list the southpaws, except for the Patterson, Johansson, Liston all lost the sub 200 pound men. As you agree Frazier avoided big punchers for the most part, save Foreman in title matches where he bounced Joe like a basketball.​
            You have provided zero proof that Lewis avoided southpaws or anyone else, and, as I pointed out to you Ocasio was 5 lbs heavier that Lewis when they fought.
            You have been humiliated and exposed on your own thread,caught out inventing quotes, and not just by me.
            And may I say, its been an absolute pleasure to have been part of it! LOL

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            • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

              You have provided zero proof that Lewis avoided southpaws or anyone else, and, as I pointed out to you Ocasio was 5 lbs heavier that Lewis when they fought.
              You have been humiliated and exposed on your own thread,caught out inventing quotes, and not just by me.
              And may I say, its been an absolute pleasure to have been part of it! LOL
              SHUT UP. He fought none and has a stylistic reason. There were some to fight. He ducked Chris Byrd!! He only dropped a belt. What did he have 44 pro matches? Unless you can show me proof he did not avoid southpaws, the only conclusion is he did.

              This is the truth and you lie like rug. I have little interest conversing on with you.

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              • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                SHUT UP. He fought none and has a stylistic reason. There were some to fight. He ducked Chris Byrd!! He only dropped a belt. What did he have 44 pro matches? Unless you can show me proof he did not avoid southpaws, the only conclusion is he did.

                This is the truth and you lie like rug. I have little interest conversing on with you.
                You make accusations but offer no proof of them.
                You make false statements, but when caught out in them ignore the comments of those that caught you out!

                Just as you ignored my frequent requests for you to name the slick and clever orthodox boxers you claim Lewis avoided .

                You offered the names Sanders and Hipp as proof of your spurious argument.ignoring the fact that Sanders did not get a top ten ranking until the end of the year in which Lewis had already had his last fight.

                Hipp was never a top ten ranked fighter and as such was never on Lewis' radar .added to that Hipp was stopped by Lewis ko victim Morrison.

                There is no logic to your arguments ,they are solely agenda driven .

                You have little interest in conversing with me?Yet you initiated this most recent exchange?

                You are beat all ways to Sunday, a terminally discredited ,"busted flush".

                For my part,I am happy to converse with you.I am only too willing to humiliate you whenever the opportunity arises. as it so often does.


                Keep it coming! lol
                Last edited by Ivich; 07-27-2023, 04:58 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Ivich View Post

                  You make accusations but offer no proof of them.
                  You make false statements, but when caught out in them ignore the comments of those that caught you out!

                  Just as you ignored my frequent requests for you to name the slick and clever orthodox boxers you claim Lewis avoided .

                  You offered the names Sanders and Hipp as proof of your spurious argument.ignoring the fact that Sanders did not get a top ten ranking until the end of the year in which Lewis had already had his last fight.

                  Hipp was never a top ten ranked fighter and as such was never on Lewis' radar .added to that Hipp was stopped by Lewis ko victim Morrison.

                  There is no logic to your arguments ,they are solely agenda driven .

                  You have little interest in conversing with me?Yet you initiated this most recent exchange?

                  You are beat all ways to Sunday, a terminally discredited ,"busted flush".

                  For my part,I am happy to converse with you.I am only too willing to humiliate you whenever the opportunity arises. as it so often does.


                  Keep it coming! lol

                  Unless you can prove it, it is meaningless. Lewis often used Sanders name to the press to hype up his non-mandatory bouts as potential opponents. Prove to me why Lewis did not avoid any southpaws! You can not. I say he purposely avoided them. I could lit several men active for him to fight. He did not fight any southpaws is 44 pro matches!

                  It's over Mcvey.. er Tonto62 no I mean, check that it's Ivich now.​ For those untested PM me, I have his histroy of shame on the names.

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                  • Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post


                    Unless you can prove it, it is meaningless. Lewis often used Sanders name to the press to hype up his non-mandatory bouts as potential opponents. Prove to me why Lewis did not avoid any southpaws! You can not. I say he purposely avoided them. I could lit several men active for him to fight. He did not fight any southpaws is 44 pro matches!

                    It's over Mcvey.. er Tonto62 no I mean, check that it's Ivich now.​ For those untested PM me, I have his histroy of shame on the names.

                    t isn't up to me to prove it!
                    It is YOU making the statement not me!
                    Therefore it is encumbent on YOU to provide proof he avoided south paws!

                    Not ME to refute it by providing proof!

                    Do you understand that?
                    You ,"could lit several names?" Then why haven't you?

                    Liston , Frazier,and Holmes did not fight any southpaws as pros .Does this mean they purposely avoided them?

                    Now to address your silly remarks about user names .
                    .
                    I've had 2 usernames on Classic in17 years .Mcvey and Tonto62.My current name is Mcvey and I posted on there a few minutes ago under that name.

                    You have had 2 usernames on there as well.Dr Z which you were banned with and lastly Mendoza with which you are banned for life with,despite you lying you are not banned..'
                    I have no HISTROY lol of shame anywhere and I post on 3 boxing sites.regularly.

                    .I'm a VIP member of Classic and so I don't have to endure adverts,
                    When I informed the owners of the site I was considering leaving because of all the pop up ads they told me they would make me a VIP member and I then would not see any ads,they also thanked me for my loyalty and my posts..

                    Anypne interested in this has only to visit the site to verify it and also to verify that you are banned for life.
                    Now,is there anything else I can help you with? LOL
                    Last edited by Ivich; 07-28-2023, 08:55 AM.

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