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  • #11
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    Alternatively why not just FO and watch wrestling. because he obviously knows Jack **** about boxing"


    The fight was horrible, one of the worst heavyweight title fights in history with less contact than an episode of "Dancing With the Stars." 3. The decision was so atrocious and so scandalous that it made Holyfield's gift draw in his first with Lennox Lewis look like a competent ruling. Judges Pierluigi Poppi (the 116-112 joke) and Mikael Hook (the 115-114 disaster) rendered ghastly scorecards. Judge Guillermo Perez Pineda's 114-114 draw was merely disgusting. For the record, ESPN.com, watching the fight on pay-per-view, scored it 117-112 for Holyfield.

    Holyfield, who was the fan favorite of the 12,500 in the sold-out crowd, was bidding to become the oldest heavyweight titleholder in history. He also was bidding for a record fifth title reign. But he was ripped off. Badly. Although few gave him any serious chance to win, he deserved to make history in his 25th year as a professional, eight years removed from the last time he held a title.

    Holyfield deserved the victory not because he fought well. He didn't. All he did was bounce around, move from side to side and stay about 10 feet from Valuev all night while coming forward a couple of times per round to land a combination. But given that Valuev, who looked like a statue, fought as if he was in a coma all night long, what little Holyfield was doing should have been enough for a landslide points victory.

    Valuev barely threw any punches at all. He threw so few that it looked as if he was purposely trying not to hit Holyfield for fear of hurting the old man. Where was the excellent jab he possesses? Never once was there a sense of urgency nor the notion that he should try to do anything other than plod around and follow Holyfield. And remember: Russia's Valuev, 35, is 7 feet and 310 pounds, a mountain of a man. Holyfield is barely 6-foot-2 and weighs 214 pounds. It was a physical mismatch, but Valuev never did one thing to use his advantages. Frankly, you can make more of a legitimate argument that Holyfield won all 12 rounds than you can make one that Valuev claimed at least seven to take the fight. Holyfield, obviously disappointed, summed up the fight well in his postfight interview: "I thought I hit him more times than he hit me."

    Broadcaster Nick Charles, handling the blow-by-blow for the U.S. pay-per-view, summed it up even better: "I am shocked, dazed and amazed. That is the worst display of officiating I have ever seen."
    This post is a great example of "For the love of the sport, watch the fights." Going by a judges decision might be a way to get the winner less than 50% of the time lol. There are so many reasons why one must see a fight, it is nuanced at times... Sometimes a fighter is so good he looks like he gets hit and doesn't, the robberies.

    I do remember the fight with Valuev and Holyfield, it was positively awful... a matter of who lost more, not who won...
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    • #12
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      Queen B the conclusion is inescapable: You do not actually watch fights, hence your ridiculous assertions. why not sit down and watch a few of these fights and fighters you speak of?
      - - Watching Field circling the drain in his clearly shot years on par with watching Ali punched into punch drunk heaven his last years.

      For U not me!

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      • #13
        Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

        Queen B the conclusion is inescapable: You do not actually watch fights, hence your ridiculous assertions. why not sit down and watch a few of these fights and fighters you speak of?
        - - Reckon I’ve watched more classic fights than you or anyone else here.

        U more in the Kerouac/Ginsberg free verse mold.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Reckon I’ve watched more classic fights than you or anyone else here.

          U more in the Kerouac/Ginsberg free verse mold.
          Lol, more crap and made up BS. Sure you have!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - Reckon I’ve watched more classic fights than you or anyone else here.

            U more in the Kerouac/Ginsberg free verse mold.
            Toney Soprano voice: "OWWWW!" Your brain has to be "open, receptive" You can't drink that stuff that says "proof" on the bottle. You have to fix that eye that goes to the wallside chief. Your missing a lot of the action...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

              Lol, more crap and made up BS. Sure you have!
              Someone taped electric tape on his "watching glasses." No wonder Queenie thinks all sports events happen at night.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                Lol, more crap and made up BS. Sure you have!
                I've seen a few classic fights in my 74 years,I wouldn't claim any record as I don;t know the age any of the posters here.
                Apart that is from Queensbury Fool ,who is eleven.

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                • #18
                  - - Watch you monkeys jibjabbering each other…priceless…

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