Why is The Boxing Community so Nostalgic Compared to Other Sports Communities?

[max baer]

- - How do you teach Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Do you ever discuss the lost Memoirs mysteriously lost before publication recorded by Washington associate Rawlings?

ahhhh queenie you stirring again!!

[DeeMoney]

- - How do you teach Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Do you ever discuss the lost Memoirs mysteriously lost before publication recorded by Washington associate Rawlings?

For US History, the focus ends up being on debating the justification of using nuclear force. Was it justified, is attacking citizens of an enemy nation justified, did we do this more for an impending conflict with Russia, etc.

In World History we get more into the perspective of the Japanese, but not to the degree you are asking.

[cfang]

to answer the thread question i think it is because the heavyweight champion is nearly always a man of his times. louis and the **** schmeling mirroring the war. marciano reflecting the innocent happy fifties of the usa. Ali and the draft and the vietnam war and the peace movement. tyson and the excess of the eighties.
Fury and the idea of overcoming our demons and overcoming what would previously have killed us.
There seems to be a man for each era and like the us president and the pope, and possibly the fastest sprinter are known all around the world as a reflection of the days we live in.
I haven't explained this very well but you kinda get me??

defo get this although max schmeling was no ****. He was a hero.

[Willow The Wisp]

defo get this although max schmeling was no ****. He was a hero.

One of the most facinating lives of any heavyweight champion. He was many things, all of them good.

[Willow The Wisp]

1971.....One of Ali's highly underrated performances against a highly underrated foe, with some great music to pull it togeter, baby.

Da-ham the man was great!

https://********/KVwLlH7RmHQ

[max baer]

One of the most facinating lives of any heavyweight champion. He was many things, all of them good.

yeah sorry I meant to say he was touted as one **** by hitlers men. He was not at all I mistakingly said that.

[Willow The Wisp]

No, you were correct in a sense. His being a hero of **** Germany and a symbol of the regime was fact, and needless to say, the press all over the world tabbed him "Hitler's champion", in Allied, Axis and neutral countries. This was international hard news of the front page kind, far, far beyond just promoting their fights. But Schmelling himself was never a party member, never a supporter of the party, had a ***ish manager and as Germany's top sports celebrity before Hitler's rise to power, he had many close ***ish friends. And of course, he risked his life to save ***s by hiding them in his apartment.

https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/savi...g-aryan-champ/

[max baer]

No, you were correct in a sense. His being a hero of **** Germany and a symbol of the regime was fact, and needless to say, the press all over the world tabbed him "Hitler's champion", in Allied, Axis and neutral countries. This was international hard news of the front page kind, far, far beyond just promoting their fights. But Schmelling himself was never a party member, never a supporter of the party, had a ***ish manager and as Germany's top sports celebrity before Hitler's rise to power, he had many close ***ish friends. And of course, he risked his life to save ***s by hiding them in his apartment.

https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/savi...g-aryan-champ/

yeah willow that is a great article. I knew he was very uncomfortable with the german nordic maniacs but i never knew the extent of his heroism till now.
I'm sorry for errors in my writing you may see because i have a weird brain that i need to type as i think immediately i think it or else i lose the thought and cannot recall it. Flow of consciousness is kind of what it is. If I stop to think too long even ten seconds it is gone from my mind and i miss out saying the thoughts i wanted to get across. it is strange but i feel the need to blurt out what i am thinking immediately that I think it before it is lost for good.

[Willie Pep 229]

1971.....One of Ali's highly underrated performances against a highly underrated foe, with some great music to pull it togeter, baby.

Da-ham the man was great!

https://********/KVwLlH7RmHQ

Angelo Dundee when working with Ali got paid on a per fight bases. He was never in for a % of Ali's purses.

On the other hand, Dundee was the contract trainer/manger for Ellis and was in for 33 1/3%.

Dundee told Ali that he was with him when they both were nobodies and wouldn't think of being in Ellis's corner that night, he would be with Ali.

Ali shocked, no-way was Ange to give up that much money. He insisted Dundee stay with Ellis and get his %.

He told Dundee he would be OK.

[Willow The Wisp]

Angelo Dundee when working with Ali got paid on a per fight bases. He was never in for a % of Ali's purses.

On the other hand, Dundee was the contract trainer/manger for Ellis and was in for 33 1/3%.

Dundee told Ali that he was with him when they both were nobodies and wouldn't think of being in Ellis's corner that night, he would be with Ali.

Ali shocked, no-way was Ange to give up that much money. He insisted Dundee stay with Ellis and get his %.

He told Dundee he would be OK.

Ali also new that his childhood friend would need Angie more than he would; so Dundee did the right thing.
Jimmy Ellis, (and I tell people this alot), was a genuinely marvelous fighter. He had his ups and downs in a stacked era, but he was really gifted.
So good, but Ali made him look so bad. It was like Ali had magnets in his gloves and Jimmy's face was made of metal. Nobody was that good since.
And that song was appropriate for the time.