Why does no one talk about Azumah Nelson?

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  • JAB5239
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    Why does no one talk about Azumah Nelson?

    Not a lot of chatter around here about this great fighter. Lost to all time great Sal Sanchez after a great battle in his 14th fight. Beat all time great Wilfredo Gomez in his 2!st fight and went on to have a magnificent career beating many top fighters over several divisions.
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    He was an outstanding fighter. When I gave my all time P4P fighters in my lifetime. Sal was #5 on my list. Knowing this man died at age 23. wins over Nelson, Gomez, Lopez, Laporte. the man hasn't reached his prime yet. I know this is about Nelson but had to give a shout out to the great Sal.

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      #3
      Originally posted by mrbig1
      He was an outstanding fighter. When I gave my all time P4P fighters in my lifetime. Sal was #5 on my list. Knowing this man died at age 23. wins over Nelson, Gomez, Lopez, Laporte. the man hasn't reached his prime yet. I know this is about Nelson but had to give a shout out to the great Sal.
      - - Sal in training for his last fight, a rematch vs Laporte. Medical school was beckoning, and what's funny is how bigged up Americans are on Ray Leonard then, but Sal would've retired 45-1, 11-0 title record at age 23 better than Leonard who only won his first title age 23 and finished with an inferior title record than did Sal.

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        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - Sal in training for his last fight, a rematch vs Laporte. Medical school was beckoning, and what's funny is how bigged up Americans are on Ray Leonard then, but Sal would've retired 45-1, 11-0 title record at age 23 better than Leonard who only won his first title age 23 and finished with an inferior title record than did Sal.
        I would never take away from Sanchez as was was an absolutely great fighter, but what does the age of when a fighter won their first title have to do with anything? Leonard beat better fighters. Would Sanchez have moved up and beat Mancini, Bramble, Arguello, Chavez later on and others? Who can say? But what he did accomplish in his young life was certainly exceptional.

        And your thoughts on Azumah Nelson?

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          Ever-underrated in relation to his greatness, and one of my youth's heroes.

          I can only say that the day when he knocked Jeff Fenech out in the rematch - organized in Australia because of the infamous draw in the first fight (which, incidentally, was a perfectly acceptable result in my view) - was one of the happiest moments in the history of my boxing passion.

          Azumah showed to Fenech who the man was, without the malaria who had affected him before their initial meeting.

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            this is azumah nelsons best bits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzwO5pm2wc4

            and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPNa3fdr4m4

            great boxer for people who are not aware of him
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKOhH8Ckgng nelson's best post fight interview
            Last edited by max baer; 06-10-2023, 08:34 AM.

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              Originally posted by Tatabanya
              Ever-underrated in relation to his greatness, and one of my youth's heroes.

              I can only say that the day when he knocked Jeff Fenech out in the rematch - organized in Australia because of the infamous draw in the first fight (which, incidentally, was a perfectly acceptable result in my view) - was one of the happiest moments in the history of my boxing passion.

              Azumah showed to Fenech who the man was, without the malaria who had affected him before their initial meeting.
              The draw was just, but as you have already stated, Nelson proved who the superior fighter was in the rematch. It's a testament to Azuma's greatness that he could muster up a draw as sick as he was against a great fighter like Fenech.

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                Originally posted by JAB5239

                I would never take away from Sanchez as was was an absolutely great fighter, but what does the age of when a fighter won their first title have to do with anything? Leonard beat better fighters. Would Sanchez have moved up and beat Mancini, Bramble, Arguello, Chavez later on and others? Who can say? But what he did accomplish in his young life was certainly exceptional.

                And your thoughts on Azumah Nelson?
                - - Azuma was quite experienced in the centuries old brutal Ghanaian boxing techniques, essentially leather straps over fists before he ever took up international rules boxing, hence the tough bout with Sanchez who had to work hard to get him out.

                He was as far from an inexperienced novice as the boxing commentators making that claim could be from those who know better. Fat Colonel Bob couldn't keep his mouth shut for 15 rounds.

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                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - - Azuma was quite experienced in the centuries old brutal Ghanaian boxing techniques, essentially leather straps over fists before he ever took up international rules boxing, hence the tough bout with Sanchez who had to work hard to get him out.

                  He was as far from an inexperienced novice as the boxing commentators making that claim could be from those who know better. Fat Colonel Bob couldn't keep his mouth shut for 15 rounds.
                  ........

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                    I can see several reasons why: 1. He didn't finish the career cycle. When we see a fighter at all phases of a career we know him better, there is more material to work with, we have seen him tested more thoroughly.

                    2. He just never was massively popular, though he had a very fine reputation, he never transcended boxing, never captured peoples' imaginations, just a surprisingly good fighter. He may have done enough for the lower end of ATGness.

                    3. He did not dominate the field, wipe out his diviision (I could be corrected here, maybe).

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