Gerb vs Louis according to those who saw the both

[IronDanHamza]

Like the 188 Pound Doug Jones nearly did?

What was Harry Greb's heaviest ring weight?

The idea of Harry Greb beating Muhammad Ali is absurd. It's a totally laughable notion.

[Bundana]

I hear you, but it is not just Arcel. Joe Louis trainer, the loyal Jack Blackburn says he would have a tough time with him as he did vs the 168 pound Billy Conn. Other fighters agree with Arcel. So it's not hyperbole.

So you don't think, his praise of Greb smells of hyperbole?

How about his comments on Dempsey's greatness... is that something you think deserves to be taken seriously?

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[ShoulderRoll]

So you don't think, his praise of Greb smells of hyperbole?

How about his comments on Dempsey's greateness... is that something you think deserves to be taken seriously?

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Greb and Dempsey are universally regarded as among the greatest fighters ever. I would expect a knowledgeable boxing cognoscenti like Ray Arcel to have high praise for them…and sure enough he does.

[Bundana]

Greb and Dempsey are universally regarded as among the greatest fighters ever. I would expect a knowledgeable boxing cognoscenti like Ray Arcel to have high praise for them…and sure enough he does.

So when Arcel tells us, that Greb would be all over Ali, leaving him in a state of confusion - we should take such a statement seriously?

And when he claims, that Dempsey would have blasted out every champion that came after him in a round or two - we should believe this, because it comes from the great Ray Arcel?

[ShoulderRoll]

So when Arcel tells us, that Greb would be all over Ali, leaving him in a state of confusion - we should take such a statement seriously?

And when he claims, that Dempsey would have blasted out every champion that came after him in a round or two - we should believe this, because it comes from the great Ray Arcel?

Yes, those statements should carry a lot of weight and not be hastily dismissed.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes, those statements should carry a lot of weight and not be hastily dismissed.

So, you actually genuinely believe that Harry Greb who was essentially a Middleweight has any chance what so ever against Muhammad Ali?

[ShoulderRoll]

So, you actually genuinely believe that Harry Greb who was essentially a Middleweight has any chance what so ever against Muhammad Ali?

Yes, I believe he would have a chance. Greb was essentially a middleweight when he sparred Dempsey yet gave him all kinds of trouble.

[Bundana]

Yes, those statements should carry a lot of weight and not be hastily dismissed.

On the contrary, we should see statements like these for what they really are... oldtimers reminiscing about their youth, with their recollections often clouded by nostalgia.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes, I believe he would have a chance. Greb was essentially a middleweight when he sparred Dempsey yet gave him all kinds of trouble.

Then you're more clueless than I originally thought.

[ShoulderRoll]

Then you're more clueless than I originally thought.

Good for you.