Interesting how Joe Calzaghes legacy has changed

[MikeyMike100]

GET out of here. Read and learn! You a hater type, and not a very good one.


#97 – Joe Calzaghe

Career Record: 46-0 (32 KO)

First Ring Ranking: #10 Super Middleweight (January 1997)

Last Ring Ranking: World Light Heavyweight Champion (April 2009)

Record vs. Ring-rated Opponents: 9-0 (2 KO)

Overall Score Rank: 74

Peak Score Rank: 100

Win Total Rank: 168

Ring Magazine Championships: Super Middleweight (2006-08), Light Heavyweight (2008-09)

Joe Calzaghe won Ring Magazine championships at super middleweight and light heavyweight.

The inexhaustible Welshman tied the record for defenses of a title at super middleweight with Germany’s Sven Ottke. Calzaghe defended the WBO belt he won versus Chris Eubank 21 times. Calzaghe captured every major sanctioning body belt (if not all at the same time), and earned recognition as champion from The Ring over the course of a decade. Calzaghe rose to number one for the first time in the September 1999 issue and fell no lower than fourth until holding the number one spot from the November 2003 issue until being crowned champion after his win over Jeff Lacy. After defeating an undefeated Mikkel Kessler in a unification match to complete his tenure at super middleweight, Calzaghe rose to light heavyweight and defeated Bernard Hopkins for Ring’s light heavyweight honors.

Missing Quality: Richie Woodhall fell out of the top ten just a few months before a loss to Calzaghe in 2000 but had been a titlist in the class just two fights prior. Mario Veit was unranked prior to two title challenges of Calzaghe but would crack the top ten briefly in 2007. Sakio Bika was unranked prior to a loss to Calzaghe in 2006 but Bika would be ranked continuously for a long stretch between 2007 and 2014.

Scoring Results:

Chris Eubank UD 12 – (9) – 168 – 01/98

Robin Reid SD 12 – (7) – 168 – 05/99

Charles Brewer UD 12 – (5) – 168 – 08/02

Byron Mitchell TKO 2 – (6) – 168 – 10/03

Jeff Lacy UD 12* – (3) – 168 – 06/06

Peter Manfredo TKO 3 – (10) – 168 – 07/07

Mikkel Kessler UD 12 – (1) – 168 – 02/08

Bernard Hopkins SD 12* – (C+) – 175 – 07/08

Roy Jones Jr. UD 12 – (6) – 175 – 01/09

AND

https://www.boxingscene.com/measured...alzaghe--16920

Interesting how Roy Jones was still in the top 10 in 09

[Dr. Z]

Interesting how Roy Jones was still in the top 10 in 09

He was. As were the other 8 ring magazine ranked fighters that Calzaghe beat when he fought them. Everybody got that now ( IronDanHamza )

[QueensburyRules]

You posted the END OF YEAR rankings. Which part of this are you struggling to understand?

You understand what "END OF YEAR" means, yes or no?

It means that those rankings were the rankings at the END OF THAT YEAR (December 31st)

Meaning the rankings you citied were AFTER the fought. Which, is irrelevant to your point because what matters is where they were ranked WHEN they fought.

And, WHEN they fought, Chris Eubank was unranked at 168. That is a FACT.

Do you understand, you fucking retard?

- - 1997 = All of 1997 and Eubank ranked for 1997.

You bellowing into your nether regions would be comedy gold but for the stink you produce.

[IronDanHamza]

GET out of here. Read and learn! You a hater type, and not a very good one.


#97 – Joe Calzaghe

Career Record: 46-0 (32 KO)

First Ring Ranking: #10 Super Middleweight (January 1997)

Last Ring Ranking: World Light Heavyweight Champion (April 2009)

Record vs. Ring-rated Opponents: 9-0 (2 KO)

Overall Score Rank: 74

Peak Score Rank: 100

Win Total Rank: 168

Ring Magazine Championships: Super Middleweight (2006-08), Light Heavyweight (2008-09)

Joe Calzaghe won Ring Magazine championships at super middleweight and light heavyweight.

The inexhaustible Welshman tied the record for defenses of a title at super middleweight with Germany’s Sven Ottke. Calzaghe defended the WBO belt he won versus Chris Eubank 21 times. Calzaghe captured every major sanctioning body belt (if not all at the same time), and earned recognition as champion from The Ring over the course of a decade. Calzaghe rose to number one for the first time in the September 1999 issue and fell no lower than fourth until holding the number one spot from the November 2003 issue until being crowned champion after his win over Jeff Lacy. After defeating an undefeated Mikkel Kessler in a unification match to complete his tenure at super middleweight, Calzaghe rose to light heavyweight and defeated Bernard Hopkins for Ring’s light heavyweight honors.

Missing Quality: Richie Woodhall fell out of the top ten just a few months before a loss to Calzaghe in 2000 but had been a titlist in the class just two fights prior. Mario Veit was unranked prior to two title challenges of Calzaghe but would crack the top ten briefly in 2007. Sakio Bika was unranked prior to a loss to Calzaghe in 2006 but Bika would be ranked continuously for a long stretch between 2007 and 2014.

Scoring Results:

Chris Eubank UD 12 – (9) – 168 – 01/98

Robin Reid SD 12 – (7) – 168 – 05/99

Charles Brewer UD 12 – (5) – 168 – 08/02

Byron Mitchell TKO 2 – (6) – 168 – 10/03

Jeff Lacy UD 12* – (3) – 168 – 06/06

Peter Manfredo TKO 3 – (10) – 168 – 07/07

Mikkel Kessler UD 12 – (1) – 168 – 02/08

Bernard Hopkins SD 12* – (C+) – 175 – 07/08

Roy Jones Jr. UD 12 – (6) – 175 – 01/09

AND

https://www.boxingscene.com/measured...alzaghe--16920

What does this article have to do with anything that’s been said?

This article doesn’t change the fact that Calzaghe beat 3 fighters who were ranked in the Top 5 at the time they fought.

[IronDanHamza]

- - 1997 = All of 1997 and Eubank ranked for 1997.

You bellowing into your nether regions would be comedy gold but for the stink you produce.

No, that isn’t how it works you idiot.

1997 = the rankings are of DECEMBER 31st 1997. It literally states that.

At the time Calzaghe and Eubank fought, Eubank was unranked. Again, objective fact.

It seems facts are something this website really struggles with.

[IronDanHamza]

He was. As were the other 8 ring magazine ranked fighters that Calzaghe beat when he fought them. Everybody got that now ( IronDanHamza )

Right….. I never disputed any of that that.

And only 3 of those 8 were in the Top 5 which you still don’t seem to be getting.

[Marchegiano]

Future maybe.

Past? Irrelevant.

But realistically what matters is where they were ranked WHEN THEY FOUGHT.

Oh okay

[Dr. Z]

Right….. I never disputed any of that that.

And only 3 of those 8 were in the Top 5 which you still don’t seem to be getting.

Oh I get it. You also said Clazaghe's resume is incredibly poor. That is BS. It's not. You have sour g****s. Clazhage retied un defeated and beat two hall of fame fighters. He defeated a total of 8 ring ranked raked opponents. But you think that's incredibly poor? Um, okay, I think we are done.

[IronDanHamza]

Oh I get it. You also said Clazaghe's resume is incredibly poor. That is BS. It's not. You have sour g****s. Clazhage retied un defeated and beat two hall of fame fighters. He defeated a total of 8 ring ranked raked opponents. But you think that's incredibly poor? Um, okay, I think we are done.

So you do finally understand that he only beat 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5? Ok fantastic I’m glad you finally understand that.

3 Top 5 fighters beaten in a 10+ year span is a joke. Simple as that.

[Dr. Z]

So you do finally understand that he only beat 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5? Ok fantastic I’m glad you finally understand that.

3 Top 5 fighters beaten in a 10+ year span is a joke. Simple as that.

Calling his resume incredibly poor, is wrong. A joke. Not replying to who was willing to fight him was weak.

By the way its FOUR opponent beaten who were ranked in top top five, not three as you claim. So you are wrong. I put then in bold. Simply admit you mistake and move on.


Chris Eubank UD 12 – (9) – 168 – 01/98

Robin Reid SD 12 – (7) – 168 – 05/99

Charles Brewer UD 12 – (5) – 168 – 08/02

Byron Mitchell TKO 2 – (6) – 168 – 10/03

Jeff Lacy UD 12* – (3) – 168 – 06/06

Peter Manfredo TKO 3 – (10) – 168 – 07/07

Mikkel Kessler UD 12 – (1) – 168 – 02/08

Bernard Hopkins SD 12* – (C+) – 175 – 07/08

Roy Jones Jr. UD 12 – (6) – 175 – 01/09

- Dr. Z