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  • #91
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post
    Queensbury Fool has posted total BS as usual .
    Vitali was always scheduled to be on the Lewis v Johnson card as the chief supporting bout,his opponent

    was to have been Cedric Boswell.

    When Kirk Johnson pulled out with a muscle tear in his arm Vitali was offered the shot.

    He had the same amount of notice about a change of opponent as Lewis !

    Vitali prepped for an undercard fight. With 10 days notice, he gets to know he's fighting for the biggest title in sports. Big difference.


    " Green Vitali" Had 33 fights under his belt and was 32 years old! I month off 33!

    Vitali had gone 10 rounds with Larry Donald just 6 months earlier.

    Lewis had not fought since stopping Tyson in 8 rds over a year earlier..

    Vitali was training to fight 6 ft 3 in Boswell

    Lewis to fight 6 ft 2 in Johnson .

    Who had to make the bigger adjustment?
    Clearly Vitali. How can that be debateable?

    • A right hand from Lewis opened a grotesque cut over Klitschko's left eye in the third round.
    • Dr. Paul Wallace, the ringside physician, told the referee to stop the fight after the sixth round due to the cut over Klitschko's left eye.
    • Klitschko required 60 stitches to repair four cuts on his face and one cut in his mouth.
    • HBO's Harold Lederman had the fight scored 57-57 after 6 rounds.
    ​Vitali was the WBC number one contender.
    Lummox won by an unsatisfactory TKO. IMO he got lucky and him not wanting a rematch kinda tells me he knew that himself.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

      You drinking already? What are you even talking about?
      - - U minder be on strike now is it? Need to up U gummint pay.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Ivich View Post

        It's okay ,nobody cares! lol

        ps Check his joining date against yours and mine.
        - - Check U brain wif a Chimp, and if U cheat, well, them Chimps ain't so woosy as U.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

          Vitali prepped for an undercard fight. With 10 days notice, he gets to know he's fighting for the biggest title in sports. Big difference.


          Clearly Vitali. How can that be debateable?



          Lummox won by an unsatisfactory TKO. IMO he got lucky and him not wanting a rematch kinda tells me he knew that himself.
          Vitali had fought 10rds 6 months earlier, he was the number one contender with 33 fights under his belt,32 years old, **** in his prime, he was neither green, nor inexperienced, and he was in far better shape than the career heaviest 37 years old Lewis and he still lost.

          No if's, no buts. he lost!
          Loose tape ,dreadlocks BOLLOCKS! He Lost!

          https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-le...d&searchtype=0

          Purrity
          Sosnowski
          Charr
          Bean
          Norris
          Briggs
          Chisora
          Williams
          Mahone
          Sullivan
          Donald

          None were ranked by the Ring.

          Vitali=Cherry Picker
          Last edited by Ivich; 10-12-2022, 10:45 AM.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ivich View Post
            Vitali had fought 10rds 6 months earlier, he was the number one contender with 33 fights under his belt,32 years old, **** in his prime, he was neither green, nor inexperienced, and he was in far better shape than the career heaviest 37 years old Lewis and he still lost.

            No if's, no buts. he lost!
            Loose tape ,dreadlocks BOLLOCKS! He Lost!

            https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-le...d&searchtype=0


            Vitali=Cherry Picker
            - - Lewie vastly more experienced had a full 8 week training camp on top of importing Manny to England to help start a month long training camp before coming to America wif Vitali nowhere near the card. As 'splained tediously to that BB rattling round U noggin, Tyson ditched the shyte Lennie promotion that prompted Lewie trying to fulfill the 3 Vitali legal judgements against him saw an opportunity for exploitation and the rest history U still have yet to catch up on.

            Ever think about suing U parents.

            It's like U was born yesterday for the umpteenth time today. U in diapers then and now obviously.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

              Vitali prepped for an undercard fight. With 10 days notice, he gets to know he's fighting for the biggest title in sports. Big difference.


              Clearly Vitali. How can that be debateable?


              Lummox won by an unsatisfactory TKO. IMO he got lucky and him not wanting a rematch kinda tells me he knew that himself.
              It's not like Vitali had little time to prepare for the first fight. You're right. Yet he was up 4-2 on all three judges cards. When the fight ended Lewis was gassed and crash down on his stool hard. Vitali had plenty left and showed it during when a doctor decision to stop it was made. Lewis said he would give a re-match multiple times, both on air in the interview both right after the fight, and later to the press. He did not. And let's not pretend Lewis was retied at that time. BS Not until the WBC ordered the re-match. After the fight Vitali, Lewis was trying to negotiate a fight with Kirk Johnson for a fight in Canada, but Vitali ruined that blowing Johnson out in 2 rounds! Then he tired to make a fight with Roy Jones. Jones knew Lewis was still very formidable and said no thanks.

              But as soon as the WBC ordered a re-match Lewis had to &hit or get off the pot. He was pinned down and could not fight anyone else nor could he drop any more belts like he did vs Byrd! He head no more belts to give up, this was his last one. He went back on his word. 18 million dollars as up, yet he retied. That says it all, don't you think? When the WBC ordered the re-match Lewis abruptly retired. That why he avoided the fight.

              Ivich is a hatter and a fool. Don't waste too much time on him.
              Last edited by Dr. Z; 10-12-2022, 10:55 AM.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                - - Lewie vastly more experienced had a full 8 week training camp on top of importing Manny to England to help start a month long training camp before coming to America wif Vitali nowhere near the card. As 'splained tediously to that BB rattling round U noggin, Tyson ditched the shyte Lennie promotion that prompted Lewie trying to fulfill the 3 Vitali legal judgements against him saw an opportunity for exploitation and the rest history U still have yet to catch up on.

                Ever think about suing U parents.

                It's like U was born yesterday for the umpteenth time today. U in diapers then and now obviously.
                He had 11 more fights at the time...how is that "vastly" more experienced?

                It's funny how you disparage Lewis for retiring after butchering Vits at nearly 38 years old, but you give Vitty a pass fornot rematching Byrd after quiting against him While the were closely ranked when he was 32, 33 and 34 years old.
                Last edited by JAB5239; 10-12-2022, 11:27 AM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                  Vitali had fought 10rds 6 months earlier, he was the number one contender with 33 fights under his belt,32 years old, **** in his prime, he was neither green, nor inexperienced, and he was in far better shape than the career heaviest 37 years old Lewis and he still lost.

                  No if's, no buts. he lost!
                  Loose tape ,dreadlocks BOLLOCKS! He Lost!

                  https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-le...d&searchtype=0

                  Purrity
                  Sosnowski
                  Charr
                  Bean
                  Norris
                  Briggs
                  Chisora
                  Williams
                  Mahone
                  Sullivan
                  Donald

                  None were ranked by the Ring.

                  Vitali=Cherry Picker
                  You can call him what you want, but I address the false narrative of lummox being the one who was underprepared. Him coming in at his heaviest in the final fight of his career is far from unique, and we all know had he taken a dump before the weighin, he’d have tipped the scales a good deal lighter.

                  Lummox got lucky and he knew it.

                  So feel free to argue Vitali as a cherry picker, despite him also having a greater comeback fight than Ali, but stop using a false narrative.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

                    You can call him what you want, but I address the false narrative of lummox being the one who was underprepared. Him coming in at his heaviest in the final fight of his career is far from unique, and we all know had he taken a dump before the weighin, he’d have tipped the scales a good deal lighter.

                    Lummox got lucky and he knew it.

                    So feel free to argue Vitali as a cherry picker, despite him also having a greater comeback fight than Ali, but stop using a false narrative.
                    Not really. Lewis came in 7 lbs heavier than his fight prior at 256, his career heaviest.

                    The only other time he'd weighed in above 250 was against Rahman which was another fight where he was obviously under prepared. And that was 3 lbs lighter than he was against Vitali.

                    Either way, Vitali Klitschko's resume is terrible.

                    Greater comeback than Ali? Is that some kind of joke?

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                    • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post

                      You can call him what you want, but I address the false narrative of lummox being the one who was underprepared. Him coming in at his heaviest in the final fight of his career is far from unique, and we all know had he taken a dump before the weighin, he’d have tipped the scales a good deal lighter.

                      Lummox got lucky and he knew it.

                      So feel free to argue Vitali as a cherry picker, despite him also having a greater comeback fight than Ali, but stop using a false narrative.
                      you and I have gone many rounds on this topic so I'll just skip to the bolded since we k ow neither of us is going to change our opinion so many years later.

                      Do you really think Sam Peter was a greater comeback fight than Jerry Quarry? I think Quarry was a far better fighter with a greater resume. If it hadn't been for the era he fought in he may well have been a champion in another. I just can see how or what Peter does better.

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