Who was the best fighter Vitali Klitschko beat?

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  • Ivich
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    #31
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

    My old pal Johnny Ort would love you for this show of faith!
    I remember him, after the US Championships scandal he was known as Johnny Bought! lol

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    • Dr. Z
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      #32
      Originally posted by JAB5239

      I don't rank Wilder or Fury as top 10 all time greats either. I'll look a little later and give you the number for them, I'd expect they're comparable.

      Arreola, Gomez, Peter, Sanders, Johnson, Adamek and the losses are to Byrd and Lewis.
      Solis was ranked 9th or 10th. I think 9th. So you can your up your count.

      Chisora and Hide we ranked once, but I'm not sure if they were raked when they fought.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Dr. Z

        Solis was ranked 9th or 10th. I think 9th. So you can your up your count.

        Chisora and Hide we ranked once, but I'm not sure if they were raked when they fought.
        Solis last fought in Dec 2010, before his March 2011 fight with Vits. He was not in the year end ratings. Could he have been and it just got in late when the year end issue was already being published? It's a possibility. But I think it's more likely you're thinking of his WBC ranking. Neither Chisora or Hide were Ring ranked when they fought Vitaly.

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          #34
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          Solis last fought in Dec 2010, before his March 2011 fight with Vits. He was not in the year end ratings. Could he have been and it just got in late when the year end issue was already being published? It's a possibility. But I think it's more likely you're thinking of his WBC ranking. Neither Chisora or Hide were Ring ranked when they fought Vitaly.
          I'm not talking annual ratings, I'm talking they fought! Solis was ranked when they did.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dr. Z

            I'm not talking annual ratings, I'm talking they fought! Solis was ranked when they did.
            Why was he not in the year end ratings that come out in March than? He beat Ray Austin in Dec, a DQ win. He wasn't ranked in 2009 or 2010 after beating DaVarelle Williamson. So again. I think you're thinking of the WBC ratings.

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              #36
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              Why was he not in the year end ratings that come out in March than? He beat Ray Austin in Dec, a DQ win. He wasn't ranked in 2009 or 2010 after beating DaVarelle Williamson. So again. I think you're thinking of the WBC ratings.

              Since ring magazine ranked Solis #9 the month after he lost he fell out of the rankings. Got it? I'm not taking WBC ratings. I'm talking ring magazine rankings. Annual rankings are a one time snap shot of who was ranked at the end of the year.
              Last edited by Dr. Z; 09-30-2022, 07:42 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Dr. Z


                Since ring magazine ranked Solis #9 the month after he lost he fell out of the rankings. Got it? I'm not taking WBC ratings. I'm talking ring magazine rankings. Annual rankings are a one time snap shot of who was ranked at the end of the year.
                I'm sorry, but without proof I believe this to be false. I can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he was not ranked in 2009 or 2010 after his DQ win over Austin. Why would the Ring magically elevate him in March with no other wins? Both Ustinov and Arreola had wins that same year to keep them in the ratings. How could Solis have gotten in?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  What we've established is that you have no clue what you're talking g about and will go to any lengths, including straight up lying, to try and appear right. You're a joke.
                  - - U too toopid to know what U yak about.

                  Posted a relevant slice of time at the time Vit near beat Briggs to death showing the fighters he BTFO, the fighters who clearly ducked him, the fighters not yet ready for a title shot, and the top fighters he'd eventually fight like P4P Adamek. Lot of you fellow dummies were picking Solis to beat Vit, but instead we got a one punch KO in the phantom class since most folks had to watch the replay to see what happened it was so fast.

                  It's like U be better served on playdough vs silly putty forum.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - U too toopid to know what U yak about.

                    Posted a relevant slice of time at the time Vit near beat Briggs to death showing the fighters he BTFO, the fighters who clearly ducked him, the fighters not yet ready for a title shot, and the top fighters he'd eventually fight like P4P Adamek. Lot of you fellow dummies were picking Solis to beat Vit, but instead we got a one punch KO in the phantom class since most folks had to watch the replay to see what happened it was so fast.

                    It's like U be better served on playdough vs silly putty forum.
                    Your opinions mean nothing around here. All you did was post Wlad beat this one, Wlad beat that one, as if that an excuse for Vittles not to fight them. Wlad beat Byrd rather easily, but Vits couldn't. With all his advantages he landed 6 more punches than Byrd and got backed up a lot of the fight. So just because Wlad beat a fighter doesn't mean his brother didn't have to fight then.

                    As far as Solis goes......Sure Vits got the stoppage. But a guy twisting his knee is hardly a knockout.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JAB5239

                      Your opinions mean nothing around here. All you did was post Wlad beat this one, Wlad beat that one, as if that an excuse for Vittles not to fight them. Wlad beat Byrd rather easily, but Vits couldn't. With all his advantages he landed 6 more punches than Byrd and got backed up a lot of the fight. So just because Wlad beat a fighter doesn't mean his brother didn't have to fight then.

                      As far as Solis goes......Sure Vits got the stoppage. But a guy twisting his knee is hardly a knockout.
                      - - One punch caused a reflexive jerk in the whole of Solis' body that jerked the knee out of place.

                      Sorta what happened to U brain cells.

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