The Hardest Punchers Marciano's Victims Faced

[them_apples]

Marcianos conditioning is also not mentioned enough. It is, but not enough. The mentality Marciano had didn’t just show up in the ring, he was like that is training camp as well. Dusk till dawn. He would train with injuries, sickness etc just way too many stories from too many sources going on about his conditioning. His heart was incredibly strong. 15 miles in boots being built the way he was (short and stocky) is just an absurd amount of effort for a morning run. I ever heard he wouldn’t use taxis and would walk to cities, sometimes taking a few days and he and his friends would stop into motels.

He’s also the only fighter, maybe outside of salvador Sanchez and armstrong, that seemingly never took breathers or required to catch his second wind. I think this was probably his best asset at heavyweight, considering lack of stamina is was most heavyweights suffer from.

[Slugfester]

Yeah man, pretty much exactly, Rocky, for all the praise he gets for his toughness, really can't be praised enough for how damn tough he was. Or determined, or whatever word you like best that reflects his willingness to endure to win. Attrition boxer is pretty perfect word choice. We should add it to the list of commonly used phrases by using it ... commonly.

By commonly used phrases I do mean like Boxer vs Puncher. Slugger, Brawler, Attritionist ... fits, imo.

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We here at League of Owns are huge Marciano fanboys.

5 points to Ivich for starting a Marciano thread.

Yeah, I like Attritionist too.

I know there is no question of Rocky's courage. And you acknowledge he gets plenty of praise for it. Rocky has always been boxing's Medal Of Honor winner and hero for bravery, in my eyes. It goes way beyond pluck to continue with this injury and win the fight several rounds later.

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[Marchegiano]

Yeah, I like Attritionist too.

I know there is no question of Rocky's courage. And you acknowledge he gets plenty of praise for it. Rocky has always been boxing's Medal Of Honor winner and hero for bravery, in my eyes. It goes way beyond pluck to continue with this injury and win the fight several rounds later.

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5 points for praising The Rock.

[Tanakasensei]

****ell ,several men hit me harder than Marciano but none hit me so often with big punches

Lastarza,I've been hit harder by men but Rocky hit as hard at the end of a fight as at the start.

Charles,Marshall and Satterfield hit me the hardest.
Walcott ,Marciano hit me harder with single punches than Joe Louis did..

Moore.people ask me who hit me the hardest I tell them what they want to hear Marciano,but its not true,Durelle and Sheppard hit me the hardest.

Louis, Marciano knocked me out with a couple of punches Schmeling needed loads of them,but I was younger then ,you can take more when you're younger. Al Delaney hit me the hardest single punch.


My thoughts.Marciano was a relentless attrition puncher who just wore down his opponents with unceasing bombardments,everything he threw was hard, and that's why he ruined so many fighters

fighters don't know which punch is most powerful. A punch with a lot of weight will feel like more power than a Mike Tyson flash on the jaw. So fighters with heavy mass or heavy lean into their strikes will create a biased effect of punching the hardest.

but it doesn't mean that it has more power. Speed is more crucial for power than mass (double mass, double power, double speed - quadruple power)


Marciano hit very hard for his size. There's no two ways about this..he used a heavy bag that was twice as big and he moved it... He doesn't need to be the hardest.. to be a freakkishly Hard puncher.

[Tanakasensei]

It's strange to say but the field in Marcianos era was weak as hell.. it got really strong in the Ali era..

Marcianos best opponents were better than Mike Tysons best wins.. for the record...

But the average was pretty weak

[Slugfester]

For his day Liston was an imposing figure in the ring, especially with his glare. I doubt that would work for him at today's heavyweight top level. Guys 6'7" will be amused. That could work against them.

On the other hand Liston never showed me a drop of courage in the ring, the ability to take a beating and come back, the irrepressible will to win. True, he didn't usually have to. He took some good punches from Williams. Just about every heavy weight champion in history would beat everyone Liston beat, outside of maybe Williams, who had the surprise of a big punch. Pure and simple the best opponents he beat were either shot like Valdez, or simply a pretty good fighter and nothing more. Personally, I still feel like he is in the top 10 AT harveys. He could beat most of them without courage. The rest we would have to see about.

[Ivich]

fighters don't know which punch is most powerful. A punch with a lot of weight will feel like more power than a Mike Tyson flash on the jaw. So fighters with heavy mass or heavy lean into their strikes will create a biased effect of punching the hardest.

but it doesn't mean that it has more power. Speed is more crucial for power than mass (double mass, double power, double speed - quadruple power)


Marciano hit very hard for his size. There's no two ways about this..he used a heavy bag that was twice as big and he moved it... He doesn't need to be the hardest.. to be a freakkishly Hard puncher.

You can give the credence to their opinions that you think they deserve,for me I'll take the word of the man who was hit.

[Ivich]

For his day Liston was an imposing figure in the ring, especially with his glare. I doubt that would work for him at today's heavyweight top level. Guys 6'7" will be amused. That could work against them.

On the other hand Liston never showed me a drop of courage in the ring, the ability to take a beating and come back, the irrepressible will to win. True, he didn't usually have to. He took some good punches from Williams. Just about every heavy weight champion in history would beat everyone Liston beat, outside of maybe Williams, who had the surprise of a big punch. Pure and simple the best opponents he beat were either shot like Valdez, or simply a pretty good fighter and nothing more. Personally, I still feel like he is in the top 10 AT harveys. He could beat most of them without courage. The rest we would have to see about.

Liston sustained a broken jaw against Marshall but continued and lost the decision.
Williams broke his nose but he continued and ko'd him.

"Just about every heavy weight champion in history would beat everyone Liston beat, outside of maybe Williams, who had the surprise of a big punch?."
Folley
Machen
Patterson
DeJohn
Valdes
Harris

[Willow The Wisp]

Liston sustained a broken jaw against Marshall but continued and lost the decision.
Williams broke his nose but he continued and ko'd him.

"Just about every heavy weight champion in history would beat everyone Liston beat, outside of maybe Williams, who had the surprise of a big punch?."
Folley
Machen
Patterson
DeJohn
Valdes
Harris

True. Liston's era, roughly 57 - 63 was certainly one of the best.

[Dr. Z]

****ell ,several men hit me harder than Marciano but none hit me so often with big punches

Lastarza,I've been hit harder by men but Rocky hit as hard at the end of a fight as at the start.

Charles,Marshall and Satterfield hit me the hardest.
Walcott ,Marciano hit me harder with single punches than Joe Louis did..

Moore.people ask me who hit me the hardest I tell them what they want to hear Marciano,but its not true,Durelle and Sheppard hit me the hardest.

Louis, Marciano knocked me out with a couple of punches Schmeling needed loads of them,but I was younger then ,you can take more when you're younger. Al Delaney hit me the hardest single punch.


My thoughts.Marciano was a relentless attrition puncher who just wore down his opponents with unceasing bombardments,everything he threw was hard, and that's why he ruined so many fighters

We know what you think. You wrote Marciano lacked one punch power.

This is just another one of your lame attempts to smear Marciano.