Michael Moorer dominates 6 ft 10 275 lb Mike White

[Dr. Z]

It proves that size doesnât **** and is just one factor of many. People still donât get it though.

When you an unskilled big goon vs a very good heavyweight, not it does not! Some posters feel the need to bring this up . Like it somehow factors in to fights vs the skilled super heavyweights.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - U da only peep here don't git it.

Moorer was a bigger, more powerful hvy than Ali and might well KO Ali given how much trouble 195 lb soccer player Mildenberger gave him in his prime.

.....but probably not.

[them_apples]

When you an unskilled big goon vs a very good heavyweight, not it does not! Some posters feel the need to bring this up . Like it somehow factors in to fights vs the skilled super heavyweights.

what skilled super heavies? is there a list? not just 4k TV and more detail?

[them_apples]

- - U da only peep here don't git it.

Moorer was a bigger, more powerful hvy than Ali and might well KO Ali given how much trouble 195 lb soccer player Mildenberger gave him in his prime.

Foreman made Moorer look Tiny, he never made Ali look Tiny.

Before you act like a few lbs makes someone taller and wider don't forget Foreman got as light as 236 lbs in his comeback. The heaviest in his first run was around 232 (on the scale) and obviously the leanest prime version is probably 222-224

DoN't Let Better resolution 4ktv fool U

You also notice they had to lie about Foremans height in his comeback, with no hair he stood 6 ft 4 in the 90's, likely to match the fake numbers of all the other heavyweights. couldn't have a dude listed as 6 ft 3 towering over someone listed as 6 ft 4 lol


like how they list Ruiz at 6 ft 2, and Joshua is absolutely dwarfing him by well over a 5 inch cop can lol

[Dr. Z]

what skilled super heavies? is there a list? not just 4k TV and more detail?

Not Mike White. Guys like Bowe, Lewis, Klitschko. Big men over 6'3 230 pounds with a good jab, skills, a good record and many title defenses.

[QueensburyRules]

Foreman made Moorer look Tiny, he never made Ali look Tiny.

Before you act like a few lbs makes someone taller and wider don't forget Foreman got as light as 236 lbs in his comeback. The heaviest in his first run was around 232 (on the scale) and obviously the leanest prime version is probably 222-224

DoN't Let Better resolution 4ktv fool U

You also notice they had to lie about Foremans height in his comeback, with no hair he stood 6 ft 4 in the 90's, likely to match the fake numbers of all the other heavyweights. couldn't have a dude listed as 6 ft 3 towering over someone listed as 6 ft 4 lol


like how they list Ruiz at 6 ft 2, and Joshua is absolutely dwarfing him by well over a 5 inch cop can lol

- - How you aimlessly fertilize the landscape in your wanderings without supervision is a mystery.

George was 30lbs thicker and 20 years older when he flattened the considerably younger Moorer who was bigger than Ali was at 26 years of age...Duh...

[them_apples]

Anyone who disagrees with him is accused of being a casual or starting a pointless thread. He loves to split hairs and never admits when he's wrong. The take-away here is that Moorer was in fact the much smaller man, but he was more skilled and that skill is what prevailed. Usyk just showed what a smaller, more skilled boxer can do to a much larger mediocre fighter...and he did it twice! It's not a rule without exceptions. Sometimes the smaller, more skilled fighter can't overcome the size disadvantages, but various factors come into play...prime of the fighter, wear and tear, if the bigger man is a clincher/runner, etc.

It's actually a great example, I am glad you can see it clearly as well.

Nothing complicated about it, simply shows that size doesn't mean anything if the skill gap is large. and here we have it, a massive size gap and a massive ability gap.

[them_apples]

- - How you aimlessly fertilize the landscape in your wanderings without supervision is a mystery.

George was 30lbs thicker and 20 years older when he flattened the considerably younger Moorer who was bigger than Ali was at 26 years of age...Duh...

no he was about 20 lbs thicker (fatter, lets use the right words) if we are simply going by size. he hit 230+ in his first run a few times. Its just chub of course, even at 250, I question if he was any bigger and not just fatter. Against Qawi he got down to 236 or something, and he looked smaller than his 70's days.

Not aimless at all Queensbot. just a different angle that you aren't used to. you can easily make connections if you use your brain a bit, I promise you the extra chub Foreman put on did not allow him to take out Moorer. He would have murdered Moorer in a few rounds in his first run.


Perhaps in this case, the 218 lb version of Joe Louis that fought Charles might have a fighting chance of taking out Deontay Wilder at 212 lbs! now we are getting somewhere!

[them_apples]

Not Mike White. Guys like Bowe, Lewis, Klitschko. Big men over 6'3 230 pounds with a good jab, skills, a good record and many title defenses.

thats a pretty narrow bracket and all those guys lost to smaller men.

I wouldn't be so sure to say Lewis, Klitschko and Bowe are in a category like that. They have too many glaring flaws in other departments. Bowe really never showed greatness other than his brawls with his buddy Evander (its a lot easier to get up and fight someone you know and are used to). Wlad got slept cold twice in his prime by sub-par smaller fighters, and never beat anyone great. He shouldn't be even mentioned. Vitali was pretty good though, underrated. Lewis was a great heavyweight. He had good ring IQ, and good fundamentals - and the confidence on the big stage. He had a weaker chin and sub par feet though - but over all would give most high tier champs a good fight.

Nothing special about that list, and 230 is a number many heavyweights have weighed.

[Dr. Z]

thats a pretty narrow bracket and all those guys lost to smaller men.

I wouldn't be so sure to say Lewis, Klitschko and Bowe are in a category like that. They have too many glaring flaws in other departments. Bowe really never showed greatness other than his brawls with his buddy Evander (its a lot easier to get up and fight someone you know and are used to). Wlad got slept cold twice in his prime by sub-par smaller fighters, and never beat anyone great. He shouldn't be even mentioned. Vitali was pretty good though, underrated. Lewis was a great heavyweight. He had good ring IQ, and good fundamentals - and the confidence on the big stage. He had a weaker chin and sub par feet though - but over all would give most high tier champs a good fight.

Nothing special about that list, and 230 is a number many heavyweights have weighed.

How may decisions did Bowe. Klitschko, Klitschko, and Lewis lose? Just one and it was razor thin out of how many fights? Needless to say Mike White does not rate with them at all or even tier two big guys. Not even tier three guys. He is 26-13 ( ko'd 6 times ) and drew once. That a journeyman. He was also old and past his best ( 35 ) for Moorer. In fact he lost his last two fights. Why do you list him again? Why?