Is Rosenbloom Top 25 At175lbs

[Bundana]

When no film exists of the guy, It's difficult to say anything with great certainty. But with a KO% as low as 6.38, he must have been fun (or boring?) to watch - flailing away round after round, with completely harmless punches!

He did have a great chin, and some good wins over ranked opponents... but an all time top-25 LHW? Well, I don't really think so... though I suppose, a case could be made for him to land somewhere around the bottom of such a list.

[DeeMoney]

Cliff Rold did a top 25 aal time Light Heavies for Boxing Scene a little over a decade ago. He had Rosenbloom at 9th.

I wouldnt have him that high, but its interesting to note how high some professional scribes have him.

[Dr. Z]

Cliff Rold did a top 25 aal time Light Heavies for Boxing Scene a little over a decade ago. He had Rosenbloom at 9th.

I wouldnt have him that high, but its interesting to note how high some professional scribes have him.

Care to re-post that list? Rosenblooom lost too often to be ranked 9th among all time top heavyweights. But it interesting his say so, for sure he must know a lot about Rosenbloom to rank him that high. I'd like to read his thoughts to learn why. There is no film on him, I think.

[DeeMoney]

Care to re-post that list? Rosenblooom lost too often to be ranked 9th among all time top heavyweights. But it interesting his say so, for sure he must know a lot about Rosenbloom to rank him that high. I'd like to read his thoughts to learn why. There is no film on him, I think.

Sure:

https://www.boxingscene.com/top-25-l...top-ten--23364

[GhostofDempsey]

Former MW champion Johnny Wilson fought him just before he retired. He said Maxie was a clown, a jumping jack, jumping all over the ring. He's here, he's there. This seems to give the impression he was very awkward, likely did a good deal of running, and his punches lacked any power because he never planted his feet, he was always on the move, afraid to get hit. Content to eek out decision wins, no matter how boring or ridiculous his performance. Effective yes, entertaining, likely not, which may explain why there is no film on him.

[Dr. Z]

Sure:

https://www.boxingscene.com/top-25-l...top-ten--23364

Wow, that article was from 2009 Here's what I think what is lost in translation is he obviously scored enough blows to win several significant fights. And while he isn't on film, at least I think he isn't his opposition is and we can judge them. He was an active and skilled guy with a lot of movement. A defensive specialists with penalty of offense mixed in. Some people may not like it, but a hard to hit and active guy that's can tough to hit cleanly is hard to beat, even if he acts like a clown and to use the word clown isn't the best way to describe Rosenbloom. Rather he is an energizer bunny type with never ending stamina who keep moving and is hard to catch cleanly. He also had a fine chin. As such you really had to have good stamina, good movement skills and good speed to deal with him at light heavyweight. A slow footed puncher's worst nightmare, a medium punchers output worse nightmare, because he's going to lose via activity, and a counter puncher's worst nightmare because he doesn't commit to any power punchers. Like I said I heard Joe Louis didn't want to fight him and you can figure out why. I'd like to see the punch stats on him.

Thanks DeeMoney

[billeau2]

Rosenbloom was top ten Easy. Nobody saw him fight and are content to recreate what it is assumed he did. Look at whom he beat... and none of those guys could catch him? Dude beat a whos who list of fighters... as Illych said... Must have really done a number bribing the refs and what not... Maybe he went back in time after he made it in Hollywood and paid the refs off!

"he was ackward, like a sawmill coming at you..." the following description is for another alleged great fighter who was "different." Most of the members here can figure out to whom I am referring... So ask yourself this question, Lefty and others who think less of maxie: Great fighters who picked apart other fighters... could not stop the "sawmill" and could not expose Rosenbloom as a powder punching nobody... And if they could not... and if Rosenbloom had success, what does that tell you?

I do concede that not actually seeing a guy has its drawbacks. But RosenBloom, beat a LOT of ATG level guys!

[crold1]

Wow, that article was from 2009 Here's what I think what is lost in translation is he obviously scored enough blows to win several significant fights. And while he isn't on film, at least I think he isn't his opposition is and we can judge them. He was an active and skilled guy with a lot of movement. A defensive specialists with penalty of offense mixed in. Some people may not like it, but a hard to hit and active guy that's can tough to hit cleanly is hard to beat, even if he acts like a clown and to use the word clown isn't the best way to describe Rosenbloom. Rather he is an energizer bunny type with never ending stamina who keep moving and is hard to catch cleanly. He also had a fine chin. As such you really had to have good stamina, good movement skills and good speed to deal with him at light heavyweight. A slow footed puncher's worst nightmare, a medium punchers output worse nightmare, because he's going to lose via activity, and a counter puncher's worst nightmare because he doesn't commit to any power punchers. Like I said I heard Joe Louis didn't want to fight him and you can figure out why. I'd like to see the punch stats on him.

Thanks DeeMoney

It's hard to assess exactly where to have Rosenbloom but he was an evidently great fighter who had some incredible winning runs and some periods where he kept coming up L's. Reflective of a style and power that almost always meant distance. He DID lose a lot; he also won a lot. When I did the study of Ring's rankings, his numbers were astounding (he had the most official wins against ranked opponents for the relevant years...and about the most losses) and that's not including No decision bouts. It's been almost fifteen years since I did those top 25s and there's a lot I'd probably see different given the subjectivity there but his objective results are laid out pretty well here:

https://www.ringtv.com/634566-to-be-...ankings-70-61/

[Ivich]

It's hard to assess exactly where to have Rosenbloom but he was an evidently great fighter who had some incredible winning runs and some periods where he kept coming up L's. Reflective of a style and power that almost always meant distance. He DID lose a lot; he also won a lot. When I did the study of Ring's rankings, his numbers were astounding (he had the most official wins against ranked opponents for the relevant years...and about the most losses) and that's not including No decision bouts. It's been almost fifteen years since I did those top 25s and there's a lot I'd probably see different given the subjectivity there but his objective results are laid out pretty well here:

https://www.ringtv.com/634566-to-be-...ankings-70-61/

Thank you!

[Dr. Z]

It's hard to assess exactly where to have Rosenbloom but he was an evidently great fighter who had some incredible winning runs and some periods where he kept coming up L's. Reflective of a style and power that almost always meant distance. He DID lose a lot; he also won a lot. When I did the study of Ring's rankings, his numbers were astounding (he had the most official wins against ranked opponents for the relevant years...and about the most losses) and that's not including No decision bouts. It's been almost fifteen years since I did those top 25s and there's a lot I'd probably see different given the subjectivity there but his objective results are laid out pretty well here:

https://www.ringtv.com/634566-to-be-...ankings-70-61/

I like your stuff, especially the record vs quality opponents. GGG for example is 11-1-1 ( 9 ko's ) and we know where the one loss and one draw came from. They were bad decisions. For a perfect score you can put in the dubious decisions with an *. Never the less being 11-1-1 vs ring rated opponents is quite a feat.


Record vs. Ring-rated Opponents: 11-1-1 (9 KOs)