Who was the best fighter Roy Jones beat?

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #11
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - Prime to prime beat comprehensively if not beat up all his peers, ie McC, TwoTon, Poppy, ect and did it in such a style never before seen.
    Who was the best fighter he beat, though?

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      #12
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      In your opinion?
      McCallum or Toney.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Who was the best fighter he beat, though?
        - - I give U 3 names, and U still need help?

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        • them_apples
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          #14
          Toney, perfect style for Roy - and Toney who was weight drained - but in his prime all there is to it

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            #15
            Originally posted by them_apples
            Toney, perfect style for Roy - and Toney who was weight drained - but in his prime all there is to it
            Intetesting that there seems to be a lot of "buts" for this question.

            Hopkins was his best opponent...but Bernard hadn't peaked yet.

            Or Toney was his best opponent...but he was weight drained.

            Or McCallum was his best opponent...but he was at the end of his career.

            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - I give U 3 names, and U still need help?
            You can't just pick one name?
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            • them_apples
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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              Intetesting that there seems to be a lot of "buts" for this question.

              Hopkins was his best opponent...but Bernard hadn't peaked yet.

              Or Toney was his best opponent...but he was weight drained.

              Or McCallum was his best opponent...but he was at the end of his career.



              You can't just pick one name?
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              Mcallum shouldn't be on the list. He's certainly past his prime like Roy was vs Calzaghe. Thats a no brainer.

              You make a point about the the Toney and Hopkins excuses though. Fair game.

              I personally would have liked to see rematches though. Hopkins did quite well in the fight and was winning the later rounds. Toney literally was killing himself to make weight, and it wasn't long after he was a cruiserweight.

              I agree though, especially with Toney, it's not really an excuse. As with Hopkins, i think with the commentating turned off the fight was close enough to warrant a rematch.

              Being out of shape was Toneys specialty, he just did well if a fighter came at him. So it seems as though prime Roy would have been too much for Toney 9 times out of 10. The one time being the toney that fought Nunn who showed great stamina and ability to put on pressure (I'd give him a decent chance)

              Hopkins was very much a showboating win though, didn't see roy actually connect with all that much regardless of what the commentating was saying. Didn't see Hopkins do much either until the last 2 rounds, but he did press the fight.
              Last edited by them_apples; 07-14-2022, 05:41 PM.

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                #17
                Kinda fits in with Roid's career trajectory. Risk avoiding, cherry picking, knowing when and who to pick. It's not a coincidence that there is some kind of asterisk even in his biggest legit wins.

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                • QueensburyRules
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by them_apples

                  Mcallum shouldn't be on the list. He's certainly past his prime like Roy was vs Calzaghe. Thats a no brainer.

                  You make a point about the the Toney and Hopkins excuses though. Fair game.

                  I personally would have liked to see rematches though. Hopkins did quite well in the fight and was winning the later rounds. Toney literally was killing himself to make weight, and it wasn't long after he was a cruiserweight.

                  I agree though, especially with Toney, it's not really an excuse. As with Hopkins, i think with the commentating turned off the fight was close enough to warrant a rematch.

                  Being out of shape was Toneys specialty, he just did well if a fighter came at him. So it seems as though prime Roy would have been too much for Toney 9 times out of 10. The one time being the toney that fought Nunn who showed great stamina and ability to put on pressure (I'd give him a decent chance)

                  Hopkins was very much a showboating win though, didn't see roy actually connect with all that much regardless of what the commentating was saying. Didn't see Hopkins do much either until the last 2 rounds, but he did press the fight.
                  - - Roy stuck and moved more because he broke his hand early in the fight.

                  Poppy looked like clubfighter and ducked the earliest rematch, and when they did rematch Poppy burst into tears crawling around the canvas. He was still squallin' like a baby 10 min after the fight ended. Luckily he broke his contract with Danny Green who knocked out Roy the fight before.

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                    #19
                    History will always remember the Uncivil War.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BKM-
                      Overall Hopkins but Hopkins improved a lot over those years so the win that jones jr. has is a bit overrated. So it's probably James Toney.
                      It HAS to be TONEY, UNBEATEN and dangerous Champion. With even a later excellent record. His fight with Jirov was astonishing.
                      And jones won about every round. Toney was FAR better than Hopkins at almost any period of their time in the ring.
                      Last edited by edgarg; 07-15-2022, 12:30 AM.

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