Link to modern boxers fighting from an oldschool camera view (distance)

[QueensburyRules]

it wasn't that technical they just don't know how to actually fight compared to better fighters of the past. Why do you think all these retired guys bet on bivol.

- - That makes U worstest of analysts of the past. The odds for the fight were close meaning nobody with any sense would make any money worth the risk, and they includes Bivol.

All these retired punchdrunks, eh? This U confessional?

[JAB5239]

- - That makes U worstest of analysts of the past. The odds for the fight were close meaning nobody with any sense would make any money worth the risk, and they includes Bivol.

All these retired punchdrunks, eh? This U confessional?

You just have nothing nice to say to anyone, do you? He makes a great point and you just gloss over it to hurl insults.

So many times you stick up for fighters of the past, but in this instance you choose to put forth zero constructive criticism and hust be a d*ck. It's gotta suckered to be you.

[markusmod]

I don't know what you are talking about. The PPV was different to view?

The vantage point and quality of video.

[QueensburyRules]

You just have nothing nice to say to anyone, do you? He makes a great point and you just gloss over it to hurl insults.

So many times you stick up for fighters of the past, but in this instance you choose to put forth zero constructive criticism and hust be a d*ck. It's gotta suckered to be you.

- - do you think all these retired guys bet on bivol?

[billeau2]

- - That makes U worstest of analysts of the past. The odds for the fight were close meaning nobody with any sense would make any money worth the risk, and they includes Bivol.

All these retired punchdrunks, eh? This U confessional?

What are you on about Queen B? Liverwurstest sandwiches? odds on the fight? Whats it got to do with watchng these guys up close and seeing how the general vantage point is so favorable to them?

[them_apples]

- - Not sure what your point is, but, any time Canelo backs up, he's looking for the walk into counter aka Barrera that dropped Marquez, but Bivol is better than Marquez.

The fight was rather technical on several levels between two natural boxer/punchers and didn't have an ounce of drama to it since nobody was ever hurt.

Hes 100 percent not looking to land that punch, ill tell you that much. Ive never seen canelo attempt any good version of that shot, and what hes doing is a habit not something purposeful

[QueensburyRules]

Hes 100 percent not looking to land that punch, ill tell you that much. Ive never seen canelo attempt any good version of that shot, and what hes doing is a habit not something purposeful

- - Used it to good effect much like Barrera used it on Morales in their last two fights.

Keep the slugger moving so he can't get set to punch, and when he does get set, PoP Goes the Weasel as he don't even know what hit him.

It's like U just started watching boxing yesterday.

Canelo is a natural counter puncher born of his 15 yr old days fights fighting growed men.

[them_apples]

- - Used it to good effect much like Barrera used it on Morales in their last two fights.

Keep the slugger moving so he can't get set to punch, and when he does get set, PoP Goes the Weasel as he don't even know what hit him.

It's like U just started watching boxing yesterday.

Canelo is a natural counter puncher born of his 15 yr old days fights fighting growed men.

Ive never seen canelo lure someone in and turn a short right over inside while slipping inwards like Barrera did. Can I see? If he does he hasn’t done it on the high level. And this isnt what hes trying to do when he drops his hands instinctively after landing. Hes admiring his work and used to fighting scared fighters that wont make him pay. Holmes tagged Cooney with a hard cross in a similar fashion, shook him up and the fight went down hill after that. The best time to hit someone is often immediately after they hit you. Boxing 101, lost in time though

I think Ive seen Canelo attempt a right roll counter right hand a few times, but these days I actually haven’t seen him counter much outside of the body work. He’s likely too stiff and bulked up to be confident enough to try it. The commentators noticed he rolls the shots in an attempt to fight like Duran, but fails to utilize the real purpose behind it because I guess He was never taught. When he rolls a shot its suppsed to put him in position to punch back. He doesnt do this though, he drops his hands and turns it into a showboating routine - I think he’s just tired though.

[billeau2]

Ive never seen canelo lure someone in and turn a short right over inside while slipping inwards like Barrera did. Can I see? If he does he hasn’t done it on the high level. And this isnt what hes trying to do when he drops his hands instinctively after landing. Hes admiring his work and used to fighting scared fighters that wont make him pay. Holmes tagged Cooney with a hard cross in a similar fashion, shook him up and the fight went down hill after that. The best time to hit someone is often immediately after they hit you. Boxing 101, lost in time though

I think Ive seen Canelo attempt a right roll counter right hand a few times, but these days I actually haven’t seen him counter much outside of the body work. He’s likely too stiff and bulked up to be confident enough to try it. The commentators noticed he rolls the shots in an attempt to fight like Duran, but fails to utilize the real purpose behind it because I guess He was never taught. When he rolls a shot its suppsed to put him in position to punch back. He doesnt do this though, he drops his hands and turns it into a showboating routine - I think he’s just tired though.

Yeah he is very flat footed. He has good power and efficiency but moves very predictably. He also does "stop" and "start" compard to someone like the 154 Argentinian fighter who really looked like a throwback fighter in many respects.

[QueensburyRules]

Ive never seen canelo lure someone in and turn a short right over inside while slipping inwards like Barrera did. Can I see? If he does he hasn’t done it on the high level. And this isnt what hes trying to do when he drops his hands instinctively after landing. Hes admiring his work and used to fighting scared fighters that wont make him pay. Holmes tagged Cooney with a hard cross in a similar fashion, shook him up and the fight went down hill after that. The best time to hit someone is often immediately after they hit you. Boxing 101, lost in time though

I think Ive seen Canelo attempt a right roll counter right hand a few times, but these days I actually haven’t seen him counter much outside of the body work. He’s likely too stiff and bulked up to be confident enough to try it. The commentators noticed he rolls the shots in an attempt to fight like Duran, but fails to utilize the real purpose behind it because I guess He was never taught. When he rolls a shot its suppsed to put him in position to punch back. He doesnt do this though, he drops his hands and turns it into a showboating routine - I think he’s just tired though.

- - ....therefore U jam on toast when not being jelly.

Not watching the fights while listening to commentators trying to shape a fight into "their story" instead of just laying back and let the fight speak for itself always gonna make U a fool.

Ever hear of a mute button?