Best welterweight of all-time

[JAB5239]

You're confusing Welterweight with Super Featherweight.

Confused or no, I think the honors go to Arguello at 130. Jmo.

[Obama]

Confused or no, I think the honors go to Arguello at 130. Jmo.

Thin man is over rated.

[JAB5239]

Thin man is over rated.

Overrated? Explain.

[The Jackal]

Confused or no, I think the honors go to Arguello at 130. Jmo.

Here here so say all of us..

126 Pep
130 Arguello
135 Duran
147 Robinson just nicks Armstrong
160 Marvin Hagler
175 Ezzard Charles
Heavy Ali.

Arguello was just a little slow on his feet need a little distance to get his shots off.
Robinson just a little to defencive weakness but more than made up for it in speed of hand & foot.
Armsrtong has a good case for top 147 if Robinson wasn't a round

[Obama]

Overrated? Explain.

Arguello had far more weaknesses than Mayweather, not to mention would never have a prayer of beating Mayweather head to head. The man was not a complete fighter, Mayweather is.

[StarshipTrooper]

Arguello had far more weaknesses than Mayweather, not to mention would never have a prayer of beating Mayweather head to head. The man was not a complete fighter, Mayweather is.

Well THAT explains it: He's a *****

Poet

[JAB5239]

Arguello had far more weaknesses than Mayweather, not to mention would never have a prayer of beating Mayweather head to head. The man was not a complete fighter, Mayweather is.

Floyd has nothing to do with you calling him overrated and that is what Im asking you to explain.


You won't be able to change the fact Arguello fought and beat the better fighters at 130.

[Obama]

Floyd has nothing to do with you calling him overrated and that is what Im asking you to explain.


You won't be able to change the fact Arguello fought and beat the better fighters at 130.

Resume ain't everything. Losses @ FW and LW, and gift decisions at SFW and LW also can't be over looked. The man could be out boxed, plain and simple. He was extremely basic and pretty damn slow. He was fundamentally great, but aside from his durability and punching power, nothing was particularly eye popping about him. I've never watched Arguello fight and said to myself "how the hell did he do that". He just wasn't that great.

[JAB5239]

Resume ain't everything. Losses @ FW and LW, and gift decisions at SFW and LW also can't be over looked. The man could be out boxed, plain and simple. He was extremely basic and pretty damn slow. He was fundamentally great, but aside from his durability and punching power, nothing was particularly eye popping about him. I've never watched Arguello fight and said to myself "how the hell did he do that". He just wasn't that great.

How often was he out boxed? He fought a better caliber of fighters overall than Floyd, that can't be changed. I feel like you're trying to match them up head to head. That shouldn't have any bearing on historical greatness since it can't ever be proven. Joe Louis fought the same way as Arguello and he is arguably the greatest heavyweight in history.

[Obama]

How often was he out boxed? He fought a better caliber of fighters overall than Floyd, that can't be changed. I feel like you're trying to match them up head to head. That shouldn't have any bearing on historical greatness since it can't ever be proven. Joe Louis fought the same way as Arguello and he is arguably the greatest heavyweight in history.

Joe Louis was a much sharper and more clever puncher, and he also used fast combinations. Arguello can't compare.

Arguello fought better fighters, but that's the thing about a lot of them, they were fighters rather than boxers. Arguello was poison to a fighter.

And my last post contained nothing about a h2h matchup...I'm merely pointing out the man's skills, which were lacking.