How Do You Rate Frazier In Terms Of Never defeating a Power Puncher ?

[Ivich]

That Argentinian was considered a power puncher. He dropped Joe as well.

quarry was also a “puncher”

don’t consider chuvalo a power puncher. Strong yes but his punching technique is lacking a bit

I don't consider either top level power punchers.

[Ivich]

I knew Bob a little from early IBHOF days. He was a gentleman in every sense of the word. Younger fans can think Tommy Hearns. Really young ones, perhaps Anderson Silva. Tall, thin, fantastic ability to channel his own bodyweight.
Bob had murdering power. Deadly. It made him one of the best 175 pounders of all time. Unlike some of the others, though, like Carpentier, Loughran, Conn, Moore, Harold Johnson, Spinks, Roy Jones; Foster didn't translate as well north of 180. He managed to by the only man ever to cut Ali though. Frazier was a wrecking ball.

Bugner cut Ali in one of their fights.

[Ivich]

- - Made a rather 3rd grade level thread claiming Joe in his short career never beat any power punchers, when in fact he BTFO out of the two top masterful Boxer/Punchers of his era, Ali and Bob Foster...you're welcome.

Ali was never a top level puncher and Foster never stopped a class heavy.

[Ivich]

I suppose that if you sit down and set about the task, you can build a critique about any professional in any field, simply by gathering facts and assumptions that disparage the subject and leaving the praiseworthy items off to the side for use on another day. If I were to attempt to do this to Joe Frazier, I suppose that I'd start with his height. At just a shade under 6 feet, his is a Heavyweight stature from a bygone era. Then there is the mere 37 professional starts that "Smokin' Joe engaged in, the 4th least of the glove era among the actual champions, better only than Jeffries (22), Johansson (28), Tyson Fury & Michael Spinks (32).
Sometime in the course of that excercise, though, and because I don't happen to be a moron; it would occur to me that Muhammad Ali, who most people who know anything about the fight game regard as one of the 1 or 2 greatest champions of all time, was in supreme condition in 1971, comming off two great perfomances against two of the best opponents he would ever have (and that's saying an awful lot), and when he met Joe Frazier in the Garden in arguably the largest sporting event in history, it was the only meeting between the pair where they were both undefeated, and both smack dab in the middle of their respective primes....and Frazier was the better man.
After that........

Ali was blowing in the 3rd round against Quarry and the cut eye stoppage proved nothing Ali's performance against Bonavena was far from great anyone can see that! Ali was fighting Frazier after 3 and a half years inactivity and just under18rds under his belt.
HE WAS NOT PRIME.He went to the ropes so often because he trusted neither his legs nor his stamina.Prime Ali would not have been trapped in corners.
Angelo Dundee had it right, we never saw Ali's prime it was taken from him during those 3 and a half years!

[QueensburyRules]

Ali was never a top level puncher and Foster never stopped a class heavy.

- - Feel free to name the dozens of powerpunchers who could deliver better than Ali and Foster.

We await awash in baited breath...

[Ivich]

- - Feel free to name the dozens of powerpunchers who could deliver better than Ali and Foster.

We await awash in baited breath...

If your position is that both were power punchers feel free I'm not going to waste my time humoring a troll .

[The Old LefHook]

Ali was never a top level puncher and Foster never stopped a class heavy.

You mean top level POWER PUNCHER, I assume, since Clay threw combinations routinely and was a great puncher, just not a power puncher.

[QueensburyRules]

If your position is that both were power punchers feel free I'm not going to waste my time humoring a troll .

- - My position is U light in the loafers.

Stander a pure power puncher/brawler had the size, strength, and power, but not the technique of delivery as did Ali and Foster.

[Ivich]

You mean top level POWER PUNCHER, I assume, since Clay threw combinations routinely and was a great puncher, just not a power puncher.

You are correct.

[Ivich]

- - My position is U light in the loafers.

Stander a pure power puncher/brawler had the size, strength, and power, but not the technique of delivery as did Ali and Foster.

Your novelty wore off some time ago.TROLL elsewhere.