The greatest heavyweight that Gene Tunney Beats?

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  • Incapable
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    The greatest heavyweight that Gene Tunney Beats?

    As it says. The greatest heavyweight, and not past it Dempsey, that Gene could beat?
    And in their prime too?
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    Gene the marine slaps all but five or six silly. He was as good with his legs as Cassius Clay. That makes it a hard day for anyone. His knotty muscles were not for nought.

    No Greg Paige or Kenny foot-dragging Norton is whipping bronzed Gene. Neither is Baer. Neither is Valuev. Strangely, Gene whips Liston handily and has a life and death struggle with Patterson. Styles make fights. He whips young Foreman handily and has another life and death struggle with Frazier. Go figure. SMF.

    Gene will wear out galoots like the Klit brothers, and KO them for good measure over the course of 15 rounds.

    Following is a list of heavyweight champions that would give Gene hard fights, and might even beat him.

    1 Jack Johnson
    2 Jack Dempsey
    3 Patterson
    4 Frazier
    5 Clay
    6 Lewis
    7 Marciano
    8 Tyson

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      Originally posted by The Old LefHook
      Gene the marine slaps all but five or six silly. He was as good with his legs as Cassius Clay. That makes it a hard day for anyone. His knotty muscles were not for nought.

      No Greg Paige or Kenny foot-dragging Norton is whipping bronzed Gene. Neither is Baer. Neither is Valuev. Strangely, Gene whips Liston handily and has a life and death struggle with Patterson. Styles make fights. He whips young Foreman handily and has another life and death struggle with Frazier. Go figure. SMF.

      Gene will wear out galoots like the Klit brothers, and KO them for good measure over the course of 15 rounds.

      Following is a list of heavyweight champions that would give Gene hard fights, and might even beat him.

      1 Jack Johnson
      2 Jack Dempsey
      3 Patterson
      4 Frazier
      5 Clay
      6 Lewis
      7 Marciano
      8 Tyson
      Just found this post and I like it! More superb trainers in the high science during Tunney's era than perhaps in any other, and Tunney was one of their very, very best products. Got big muscles and bring that to fight the fighting Marine? He hits the off switch on your central nervous system.

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        Originally posted by The Old LefHook
        Gene the marine slaps all but five or six silly. He was as good with his legs as Cassius Clay. That makes it a hard day for anyone. His knotty muscles were not for nought.

        No Greg Paige or Kenny foot-dragging Norton is whipping bronzed Gene. Neither is Baer. Neither is Valuev. Strangely, Gene whips Liston handily and has a life and death struggle with Patterson. Styles make fights. He whips young Foreman handily and has another life and death struggle with Frazier. Go figure. SMF.

        Gene will wear out galoots like the Klit brothers, and KO them for good measure over the course of 15 rounds.

        Following is a list of heavyweight champions that would give Gene hard fights, and might even beat him.

        1 Jack Johnson
        2 Jack Dempsey
        3 Patterson
        4 Frazier
        5 Clay
        6 Lewis
        7 Marciano
        8 Tyson
        As a realy big Dempsey fan I would argue that the 1926 fight had too many qualifications by which to measure Dempsey by; a three year layoff, lack of motivation, ill the day of the fight, and to some extent his age.

        But Dempsey was better prepared for the 'long ciunt' rematch. Not ill the day of the fight, got rid of the rust in Yankee Stadium in July, and was highly motivated. Yet lost the fight to Tunney anyway, in what was a competive fight. So I don't feel like giving Dempsey an excuse for the l 'long count' fight.

        He was certainly not the Dempsey of 1919-1923, but not past it either. Other than the early loss to Greb I suspect the 'long count' was Tunney's second toughest fight.

        I wouldI love to see a Tunney ('26) vs. Dempsey ('23) - I believe the fight would be a pick 'um. No doubt that Dempsey had a chance to beat Tunney in '23, but I think that Tunney's victory in the 'long count fight in '27 shouldn't be diminished with a simple claim that Dempsey was a finished fighter. It was, in IMO, still a great victory. In 1927 Dempsey was not a shot fighter, just not a prime one.
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 07-27-2022, 12:07 PM.

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          Tunney boxes circles around Marciano. No doubt in my mind.

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            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Tunney boxes circles around Marciano. No doubt in my mind.
            It is hard to imagine Rock catching up to him.

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              Originally posted by Incapable
              As it says. The greatest heavyweight, and not past it Dempsey, that Gene could beat?
              And in their prime too?
              Tunney was just better as a Light heavy... he still goes on a relative short list for heavyweights, I would say top 10.

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                Originally posted by Incapable
                As it says. The greatest heavyweight, and not past it Dempsey, that Gene could beat?
                And in their prime too?
                Corbett
                Jeffries
                Hart
                Burns
                Willard
                Schmeling
                Sharkey
                Carnera
                Baer
                Braddock
                Johansson
                L Spinks

                He'd give Louis a hell of a fight
                Walcott,Charles would be toss ups.

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                  - - Tunney shortly retired after Dempsey did him in.

                  U boys need a new hobby to develop intelligence, not engage in spurious fantasies of things U know not.

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