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  • jaded
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    Originally posted by them_apples View Post

    well if we rank it based off of who they got hit by and what weight class. Chuvalo comes to mind and mcall.

    lamotta and Hagler obviously showed insane durability, but they were always fighting guys similar in weight and size.

    if we look at chuvalo or even a guy like scrapiron Johnson, or even fighters that got knocked out, but started in weight classes much lower (chavez and duran) but showed immense durability even against oponents naturally much larger.

    ill go with the top hw chins tho

    Chuvalo, Foreman, Mccall. All of them took massive shots from big punchers and seemingly wouldn't go down or recovered quickly.

    I think qawi should get a mention, 5 ft 7 former lhw taking upper cuts from Foreman and while being stopped, not actually knocked out.

    just a personal opinion; I think the farther back you go chins in boxing were generally better. My reasoning is this, like basketball which has attracted more 7 fters based on the success of height in basketball not actually because there are more 7 fters around today (theres the same amount as there was in 1920) Boxing back in the day attracted tough guys. You didnt go into boxing if you werent tough. Didn't matter if you were a good athlete, 15 rounds is a long time to not get hit.

    i think even guys like Walker, Zale, Cerdan, Robinson and greb for example would probably be totally iron chinned by todays standards.



    Chuvalo immediately came to my mind. 100% pure granite and naturally strong as a bull. Never knocked down in 93 bout professional career. Had Chuvalo been afforded top management and trainers, he'd have been a champion. His manager was the neighbourhood butcher, and he never had a trainer of any notoriety.

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    No 1 rated chin by Fight City...

    https://www.thefightcity.com/top-12-...me-best-chins/

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  • boxinglife8
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    GGG never been rocket,stopped or kd

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  • JAB5239
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    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - -London was actually quite magnanimous concerning Johnson. Johnson courted high profile white folks who could further his social status, so the two were perfect bar buddies if you understand them in their day.

    Johnson walked into champion Jeffries bar in a famous encounter. Jeff didn't throw him out, and why would he? 1/3rd of his career was vs black fighters.
    That's interesting and not out of the realm of possibility. I came across an article years ago and posted it on AOL. It was about Johnson and Sullivan and how they hated each other. They agreed to a meeting and both sat in a room in silence until one of them started laughing about the absurdity of it all. When they came out they were laughing and had a new found respect for one another. I don't know how true it is because I haven't been able to find the article again and have looked several times.

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  • QueensburyRules
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    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    What makes you think London would sit and drink with Johnson?
    - -London was actually quite magnanimous concerning Johnson. Johnson courted high profile white folks who could further his social status, so the two were perfect bar buddies if you understand them in their day.

    Johnson walked into champion Jeffries bar in a famous encounter. Jeff didn't throw him out, and why would he? 1/3rd of his career was vs black fighters.

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    Jake LaMotta deserves a shout.

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  • Tatabanya
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    It has to be George Chuvalo.

    Anyone who takes all those huge punches without going down, then loses THREE SONS AND HIS WIFE and still keeps smiling and talking to people about how to fight back, must be the one.

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  • JAB5239
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    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

    - -Progressive in London's day ain't the same progressive in U Salinger, Ginsberg, and Kerouac era.

    At any rate, London's promotional artistry made JJohnson the richest fighter in the history of his moment. I'm 100% certain they shared more than a few drinks at a few bars where they crossed paths.
    What makes you think London would sit and drink with Johnson?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    London hated JJ... Was horrible to him and basically violated do many of his progressive principles, seemingly blind to how his treatment of JJ was contradictory regarding valueing the working man. He called Johnson the "laughing Ethiopian" I have never seen an Ethiopian (there are more than a few here in the East Bay) half the size of JJ!
    - -Progressive in London's day ain't the same progressive in U Salinger, Ginsberg, and Kerouac era.

    At any rate, London's promotional artistry made JJohnson the richest fighter in the history of his moment. I'm 100% certain they shared more than a few drinks at a few bars where they crossed paths.

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  • markusmod
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    Pacquiao actually has a great chin, considering he started as a minimumweight and welt all the way to junior middleweight

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  • billeau2
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    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

    Yea suspect it should but really no actual experience.

    We know JJ couldn't have had anything in his mouth otherwise he couldn't have taunted white society with his golden smile and constant trash talk.

    I guess Ketchel would have better served as well if it is true that JJ was brushing Stanley's teeth off his glove.

    In the film "Short Eyes"the prisoners have a square off with 'rags' (on their fists) and you watch them make mouth guards out of folded toilet tissue.
    London hated JJ... Was horrible to him and basically violated do many of his progressive principles, seemingly blind to how his treatment of JJ was contradictory regarding valueing the working man. He called Johnson the "laughing Ethiopian" I have never seen an Ethiopian (there are more than a few here in the East Bay) half the size of JJ!

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