When did muhamed ali peak?

[manfromatlantis72]

Early 70s mid 70s?

[JAB5239]

Late 1966 and 1967. He was a machine at that time. Fast, focused and determined.

[QueensburyRules]

- -29 when he fought Joe in their Fight of the Century.

Record purse, a rival for the ages, the righteousness of the legal establishment working in his behalf and the people backed by Allah in the traditional peak athletic years with a chance to reclaim that which had been taken from him. Two of the best tuneup fights that could be had going into Frazier.

[Willie Pep 229]

Late 1966 and 1967. He was a machine at that time. Fast, focused and determined.

Physically yes, 1967 . . . But I wonder if 1966-67 Ali could have beaten Foreman in '74.

His mastery at controlling the flow of a fight came after his physical skills had diminished.

[JAB5239]

Physically yes, 1967 . . . But I wonder if 1966-67 Ali could have beaten Foreman in '74.

His mastery at controlling the flow of a fight came after his physical skills had diminished.

Personally I think he would have danced circles around George and worn him out that way making him miss for the same outcome, though it may have taken a little longer. Great point about controlling the flow after his skills had diminished.

[Willie Pep 229]

Personally I think he would have danced circles around George and worn him out that way making him miss for the same outcome, though it may have taken a little longer. Great point about controlling the flow after his skills had diminished.

I am camping with a friend just south of the Canadian border . . . A town located at the end of civilization, Constable NY. A cross road and a traffic light, literally that's all.

It is the night of the Ali-Dunn fight. There is a general store (literally again, a real live 19th Century general store.) It was closed but I could see a light around the side.

There was a small bar in the back room with three old timers and the store guy as bartender. They were drinking short beers out of water glasses.

I crawled up on to an empty stool . . . To see a fight I'll take any shot, so I asked if they would consider watching the fight. Nice guys, they turned on the TV and we watched the fight (massacre) together.

I was a kid, so not surprisingly they were trying to impress me with their 'old timers' stories (which I personally always loved and encouraged).

About half way through the fight a little argument/debate broke out: Who was better Cassius Clay or Muhammad Ali. No shlt!

I couldn't tell if they were profoundly ignorant or were offering a very intelligent insight regarding Ali's pre and post careers.

LOL I was afraid to ask which it was so I offered vague replies that fit either possibility just in case.

I walked away, afterwards pondering: Who was better, Clay or Ali?

Skills vs. all those Ali intangibles (that are hard to define.)

P.S. But God you have to see what the stars look like on a clear Canadian night. Just don't engage the locals.

[JAB5239]

I am camping with a friend just south of the Canadian border . . . A town located at the end of civilization, Constable NY. A cross road and a traffic light, literally that's all.

It is the night of the Ali-Dunn fight. There is a general store (literally again, a real live 19th Century general store.) It was closed but I could see a light around the side.

There was a small bar in the back room with three old timers and the store guy as bartender. They were drinking short beers out of water glasses.

I crawled up on to an empty stool . . . To see a fight I'll take any shot, so I asked if they would consider watching the fight. Nice guys, they turned on the TV and we watched the fight (massacre) together.

I was a kid, so not surprisingly they were trying to impress me with their 'old timers' stories (which I personally always loved and encouraged).

About half way through the fight a little argument/debate broke out: Who was better Cassius Clay or Muhammad Ali. No shlt!

I couldn't tell if they were profoundly ignorant or were offering a very intelligent insight regarding Ali's pre and post careers.

LOL I was afraid to ask which it was so I offered vague replies that fit either possibility just in case.

I walked away, afterwards pondering: Who was better, Clay or Ali?

Skills vs. all those Ali intangibles (that are hard to define.)

P.S. But God you have to see what the stars look like on a clear Canadian night. Just don't engage the locals.

Good stuff!!