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  • ShoulderRoll
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    Tyson Fury in the firmament of all time

    So we learned more about the Gypsy King yesterday. His chin took all the right hand bombs Wilder could muster and Fury had the grit to get up from two knockdowns and kept coming.

    His arsenal under the Kronk training lineage now includes an active jab, a killer right hand of his own down the middle or looping in from the side, a body attack, and effective short punches on the inside. He has relatively smooth combinations and footwork for such a big man. And to top it all a mauling physicality in clinches.

    The guy is clearly the best heavyweight of this era.

    Is he climbing up the ladder in your all-time heavyweight rankings?
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    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    So we learned more about the Gypsy King yesterday. His chin took all the right hand bombs Wilder could muster and Fury had the grit to get up from two knockdowns and kept coming.

    His arsenal under the Kronk training lineage now includes an active jab, a killer right hand of his own down the middle or looping in from the side, a body attack, and effective short punches on the inside. He has relatively smooth combinations and footwork for such a big man. And to top it all off a mauling physicality in clinches.

    The guy is clearly the best heavyweight of this era.

    Is he climbing up the ladder in your all-time heavyweight rankings?
    - -Floating U pinkish hued petticoats with his first ever title defense in 6 years is it now?

    Talk about damning with faint praise. U with a blubber fetish?

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      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - -Floating U pinkish hued petticoats with his first ever title defense in 6 years is it now?

      Talk about damning with faint praise. U with a blubber fetish?
      Still mooning over Anthony Joshua? He isn't made of pig iron and steel unfortunately.

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        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Still mooning over Anthony Joshua? He isn't made of pig iron and steel unfortunately.
        - -Don't matter if AJ's beat more standing champs having won their titles in the ring than Tubby Lar, currently stuck in 0-6, 0 KO.

        Just the facts, ma'am.

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          #5
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - -Don't matter if AJ's beat more standing champs having won their titles in the ring than Tubby Lar, currently stuck in 0-6, 0 KO.

          Just the facts, ma'am.
          Meaningless statistic. Larry Holmes didn't have his prime during the 4 belt, "anyone can be a champion" era.
          Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 10-11-2021, 08:59 AM.

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            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - -Don't matter if AJ's beat more standing champs having won their titles in the ring than Tubby Lar, currently stuck in 0-6, 0 KO.

            Just the facts, ma'am.
            What about the Ali Massacre?

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            • Willie Pep 229
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              Originally posted by medium-deek
              Anyone got a download link to the showtime coverage of furywilder 3? hate UK commentary. Prefer yank commentators.
              My God why? The Brits must be terrible, very terrible.

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                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                So we learned more about the Gypsy King yesterday. His chin took all the right hand bombs Wilder could muster and Fury had the grit to get up from two knockdowns and kept coming.

                His arsenal under the Kronk training lineage now includes an active jab, a killer right hand of his own down the middle or looping in from the side, a body attack, and effective short punches on the inside. He has relatively smooth combinations and footwork for such a big man. And to top it all a mauling physicality in clinches.

                The guy is clearly the best heavyweight of this era.

                Is he climbing up the ladder in your all-time heavyweight rankings?
                I don't know - his punches still looked clubbing roundhouse like punches - still feel like he would have a difficult time landing on good boxer.

                But a very entertaining night - good for boxing all around - nice surprise. Hope he fights again.

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                  Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

                  I don't know - his punches still looked clubbing roundhouse like punches - still feel like he would have a difficult time landing on good boxer.

                  But a very entertaining night - good for boxing all around - nice surprise. Hope he fights again.
                  Agree with your take; but him landing on a good boxer isn't what makes him successful against most, its him negating them from landing on him. His size, reach, and movement make him very difficult to take down. As he showed in the the Wilder fights and vs Klitchsko, if you get close to him he will wrap you up, lean on you, and prevent anything from happening.

                  To beat Fury someone needs to be either bigger than him with enough movement and quickness to keep up (not likely), have that one punch power with the size to withstand his mauling (Wilder came close in the 4th rd, but didnt get it), or be a good inside fighter with enough size to handle his roughhousing.

                  Historically speaking, I wonder which guys best fit that last criteria? A mentally strong Bowe? A confident young George? Maybe a Dempsey, but that size difference is a bit much

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                    Originally posted by DeeMoney

                    Agree with your take; but him landing on a good boxer isn't what makes him successful against most, its him negating them from landing on him. His size, reach, and movement make him very difficult to take down. As he showed in the the Wilder fights and vs Klitchsko, if you get close to him he will wrap you up, lean on you, and prevent anything from happening.

                    To beat Fury someone needs to be either bigger than him with enough movement and quickness to keep up (not likely), have that one punch power with the size to withstand his mauling (Wilder came close in the 4th rd, but didnt get it), or be a good inside fighter with enough size to handle his roughhousing.

                    Historically speaking, I wonder which guys best fit that last criteria? A mentally strong Bowe? A confident young George? Maybe a Dempsey, but that size difference is a bit much
                    Bowe is God-awful so would have no chance whatsoever He wouldn't beat Hughie never mind Tyson. He got Evan Fields in his early days as a HW, and Evan for better as he grew in to it, just like we are seeing with Usyk, who arguably drew with Chisora. Foreman would be the best bet, but Fury has much more all around ability and agility than Foreman. I'd bet good money on Fury beating anybody. Nash out

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