So Fury screwed himself. This happen often in the game e.g. Camacho-Bramble

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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Fury didn't screw himself. He has a rematch clause with Wilder that an arbitrator decided was binding.

    There's nothing he could do about that, a fight with Joshua couldn't happen next.
    They could have fought outside the country - an Americsn judge ( who was only an arbitrator) couldn't have stop a Fury-AJ fight in Saudi Arabia- the history of the game is a history of broken promises and contracts.

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      #12
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
      Fury didn't screw himself. He has a rematch clause with Wilder that an arbitrator decided was binding.

      There's nothing he could do about that, a fight with Joshua couldn't happen next.
      And everybody involved knew about it... But it sounds wonderful to play the victim and claim how the wool was pulled over one's eyes.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

        They could have fought outside the country - an Americsn judge ( who was only an arbitrator) couldn't have stop a Fury-AJ fight in Saudi Arabia- the history of the game is a history of broken promises and contracts.
        I dont know about that, I doubt it and Ill tell you why with the caveat I could very well be wrong about this lol. There are certain things one can get away with because they stay under this imaginary line... So guys, if they beat the tests, they can be juicing, no one presses the issue... until perhaps one day a guy perhaps grows another head... Or, certain in house contract disputes... Or even when a fighter is suspended, having the fight somewhere else... remember Haye and Chisora... BUT when it comes to legal contracts that potentially are worth millions that openly defy the rule of law... I think there would be a real effort to curb those fights and to demand damages that legally were enforcable. Otherwise, nobody would value contracts. And Contracts have to have gravitas of enforcement to have a legal system of protections and expectations.

        So, a fighter throws an alphabet belt away... its ugly but there are other alphabets, and the real power of the mandatory imo, is not half as strong as the lineal... In other words the fans know who belongs on top, the lineal itself being a matter of opinion. But when contracts become unenforcable because a fighter chooses not to adhere to them... that would really be a bad situation, nobody would have any real protection. Who would invest in these mega events?

        You cannot rent a car in most places... if you do not have a credit card. Thats a piece of equipment worth very little... relatively speaking. Imagine just allowing some fighter to expose the whole system, the value of said losses? No one would invest in fights.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

          They could have fought outside the country - an Americsn judge ( who was only an arbitrator) couldn't have stop a Fury-AJ fight in Saudi Arabia- the history of the game is a history of broken promises and contracts.
          - -BBB of c couldn't even prevent Haye from fighting Chisora in England while they had Chisora under suspension after the Boys of Luxemburg agreed to license the fight.

          Fury ducked AJ just like he ducked the Wlad rematch which is strange in that nobody loves $$$ more than Arum, and fighters under his contract pretty much have to fight who he says. There will likely never be another $150mil to be split by the fighters for another generation or two.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Willie Pep 229

            They could have fought outside the country - an Americsn judge ( who was only an arbitrator) couldn't have stop a Fury-AJ fight in Saudi Arabia- the history of the game is a history of broken promises and contracts.
            Wilder would have gone to court to get damages if they passed him over like that.


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            WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has denied allegations that he was trying to avoid a trilogy fight with Deontay Wilder. Back in February 2020, Fury stopped


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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              Wilder would have gone to court to get damages if they passed him over like that.


              Fury Explains That Wilder Trilogy Was Necessary To Avoid $80 Million in Damages
              WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has denied allegations that he was trying to avoid a trilogy fight with Deontay Wilder. Back in February 2020, Fury stopped

              Maybe - really tough to sue internationally - Fury would have to make himself avaiable to be sued of course Fury would say that what I am accusing him of is looking for a way to duck AJ - so of course he would say that

              This is not the legal slam dunk you are (or he is) suggesting.

              Also if Fury truly wanted AJ there would have been public offers of step aside money for Wilder and media pressure would have been placed on Wilder to accept it considering how poorly he performed in the second fight - none if these things occurrd becuse Fury wasn't showing any real interest in making the AJ fight.and now it's gone and he will make less than half of what he would have made with AJ.

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                #17
                - -Fury/Wilder 3 a stain or sham no matter how anyone looks at it, and now Fury with the Corona.

                Interesting is the undercards are completely stacked with over a half dozen relevant fights better than the main event that needed serious propping up.

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