Duran vs Mosley 135

[TboneNYC09]

Great match up,lets not forget that Duran beat Ray Leonard and gave him his first lose at 147lbs.The reason was that Leonard fought Durans fight and try'd to slug it out with Duran.Leonard got ****** in like alot of fighters do when pressured and didn't use that great footwork that he had.Basically he was fighting on instincts.
Leonard made good adjustments in there second meeting.
Still,great match up but i may have to get back at you for my prediction...lol

[black.ink]

Mosley would beat the **** out of Duran. Way to much athleticism for him to handle. Power,speed and technique. If a bum handled Duran at LW, why can't Mosley

Mosley wins by KO round 11

Which bum would this be? DeJesus? You could argue that Dejesus had a better resume at LW then Mosley no matter how impressive Shane was at that weight. Dejesus presented Duran with many problems he hadn't encountered before, bringing an awkward slickness which with Duran's smarts, had figured how to beat in rematches.

Truth is, Shane didn't beat anyone world class at LW, whereas Duran beat everybody there was to beat, with the exception of giving Buchanan a rematch he deserved.

If we are talking Prime for Prime at LW, i think Duran has to be favoured, with a stoppage in the late rounds. Obviously it doesn't help if we are taking into account personal lifestyle, which later affected Roberto's in-ring performances. Ballooning up and down in weight does not help any boxer.

Duran found real problems against Benitez, who is slicker and has a much better defense then Mosley and Duran.....a naturally larger opponent, yet against Leonard, he exploited a media darling using aggresiveness mixed with underrated skill. Mosley tried emulating SRL early in his career....Duran handled SRL in a fair fight quite well.

Duran had better ring smartness then Mosley, and i'm sure with a close first 6 rounds, Mosley would later tire, with Duran coming on strong in the championship rounds looking for a knockout.

[JAB5239]

He lost to Esteban De Jesus a bum with an inflated record.

Jesus's opponents record before he faced Duran
9-11-1
23-9-8
10-1-0
119-58-20
24-7-1
13-5-1

Jesus's opponents record before the rematch
34-6-1
10-15-1
21-15-4
0-3-0

Style makes fight. Leonard is soft and cannot brawl. Mosley is stronger,hit harder and has a better chin than Leonard. Mosley can stand toe to toe with Duran and KO his overrated ass. Mosley after RJJ is the most athletic boxer I have very seen. Mosley is stronger than Duran. He bench press ability for a LW was amazing.

Good lord, another boxrec cowboy!! You need to understand one, boxrecs records are incomplete. Two, DeJesus had wins over Peppermint Frazier, Ray Lampkin and other top fighter of that era. Both were superior to almost all of Shanes lightweight comp.

Leonard was never stopped in his prime despite fighting such beasts as Hearns, Hagler and Duran. He was a better fighter than ANYONE Shane ever faced.

Athleticism isn't the end all in boxing, there are dozens upon dozens of fights where the better "athlete" lost.

The biggest thing going against Shane is his defense. Duran was a better overall fighter, but his defense is what separates the two in this instance. To say differently is just plain ignorant.

[TheGreatA]

He lost to Esteban De Jesus a bum with an inflated record.

Jesus's opponents record before he faced Duran
9-11-1
23-9-8
10-1-0
119-58-20
24-7-1
13-5-1

Jesus's opponents record before the rematch
34-6-1
10-15-1
21-15-4
0-3-0

Style makes fight. Leonard is soft and cannot brawl. Mosley is stronger,hit harder and has a better chin than Leonard. Mosley can stand toe to toe with Duran and KO his overrated ass. Mosley after RJJ is the most athletic boxer I have very seen. Mosley is stronger than Duran. He bench press ability for a LW was amazing.

You probably don't know anything about the fighter DeJesus fought who had a record of 119 wins and 58 losses. Angel Robinson Garcia was one of the toughest men to have ever fought and was once a top ranked contender for the lightweight title. He upset numerous contenders and had lightweight champ Ismael Laguna on the floor twice.

Immediately after defeating Duran, DeJesus went onto beat undefeated top lightweight contender Ray Lampkin twice and KO'd former light welterweight champ Al Frazer in 10 rounds. Duran then avenged the loss but DeJesus bounced back by capturing the WBC lightweight title.

Leonard is soft and cannot brawl? Have you ever seen the man fight?

By the way look at the incredible opposition Mosley fought before being given a world title shot, apparently for looking good against complete nobodies. He then defended his title against mediocrities and blown up super featherweights (while himself coming in as a junior middle/middleweight) until moving up to welterweight, which was a much more comfortable weight for him to make.

[StarshipTrooper]

Good lord, another boxrec cowboy!! You need to understand one, boxrecs records are incomplete. Two, DeJesus had wins over Peppermint Frazier, Ray Lampkin and other top fighter of that era. Both were superior to almost all of Shanes lightweight comp.

Leonard was never stopped in his prime despite fighting such beasts as Hearns, Hagler and Duran. He was a better fighter than ANYONE Shane ever faced.

Athleticism isn't the end all in boxing, there are dozens upon dozens of fights where the better "athlete" lost.

The biggest thing going against Shane is his defense. Duran was a better overall fighter, but his defense is what separates the two in this instance. To say differently is just plain ignorant.

You have to remember what Flawless' number 1 rule is: Rip down any fighter more highly regarded than Mayweather. If you remember this simple rule, than everything he posts makes sense.....in a warped and perverted way.

PS. Leonard was soft and couldn't brawl Tell that to Tommy Hearns

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[t.boone.pickenz]

He was juiced for the second fight, not the first.

Steroids don't make boxers better fighters. The only time they are ever effective is when a fighter takes them to recover from an injury that should have post-poned the fight.

my bad, but thats sad when your on roids and still couldn't beat him

[Obama]

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Gotta disagree my friend. Steroids improve strength, stamina and reaction time.

Oscar still should have got the decision the second time around.

Stamina? Not for boxing. They increase muscle fatigue exponentially. That completely dismisses any kind of stamina increase you get because you can no longer throw punches. Steroids give short term outburst gains. If you don't get the guy out of there early, you're worse off than you started. This is assuming you took a lot rather than a little, which is what a person would do if they were trying to gain an advantage. A little just helps you heal from something.

Note what happened to Mosley's punch output when he moved up to 154. Also note how heavily Vargas faded against DLH. The proof is in the pudding.

[K-Nan]

Mosley would get broken down in that one. A dude like Mosley who doesn't rely on a jab is not gonna be able to keep Duran at bay for 12 rounds.

[Obama]

Mosley would get broken down in that one. A dude like Mosley who doesn't rely on a jab is not gonna be able to keep Duran at bay for 12 rounds.

We're talking about a LW Mosley here. He jabbed all night long. -_-;;

[Dynamite Kid]

I heard Larry Merchant say Mosley was thinking of moving up because he was struggling with weight and because the other Lightweights Stevie Johnston etc were not interested in fighting him.

Id give Mosley a very good chance in this fight. Duran did roll with punches later in his career and become a better counter puncher inside, he was always good inside fighter but mainly offensively! when he was inside.

That said Duran did have a tendency to get nailed from time to time so its not like he had a Pernell Whitaker, Hopkins type of defence, he was not that hard to hit imo, but he did have defensive skill.

I gotta go against the grain here i like Mosley's athleticism and speed in this fight, although not saying Duran could not take it either.