Quiet Man John Ruiz Gallery

[QueensburyRules]

Kind of like when Dempsey didn't face Wills even though harry led the poll of who Dempsey should fight next, right?

- -No, more like the vote of 2nd grade teachers wanting to send U back to Kindergarten for more development.

[sallyField]

the most under rated heavyweight champ of all time, destroyed prime holyfield several times.

[JAB5239]

- -No, more like the vote of 2nd grade teachers wanting to send U back to Kindergarten for more development.

That's rich coming from an imbecile such as yourself.

[Willie Pep 229]

TBF In what world does an internet poll equate to a newspaper poll in the first place?

True - I remember back in 2000 an Internet poll had Ron Paul leading W Bush 63% to 35% - among supposed **********s voters- they hadn't by then figured out to stop multiple voting on the polls and extremists tend to have no lives and will sit in front of their computers and vote over and over.

One of the lesser networks (USA maybe) used a call in phone poll to find Oba Carr's next opponent. Livingstone Bramble admitted later he had his family and friends calling in over and over so he could get the fight.

Internet polls are probably still a joke unless of course they agree with your opinion. lol

P.S. I wouldn't take a 1920s poll as gospel either the Yellow Press had no sense of scruples either and often posted lies that supported one political opinion over another and there was no one to regulate them

[QueensburyRules]

True - I remember back in 2000 an Internet poll had Ron Paul leading W Bush 63% to 35% - among supposed **********s voters- they hadn't by then figured out to stop multiple voting on the polls and extremists tend to have no lives and will sit in front of their computers and vote over and over.

One of the lesser networks (USA maybe) used a call in phone poll to find Oba Carr's next opponent. Livingstone Bramble admitted later he had his family and friends calling in over and over so he could get the fight.

Internet polls are probably still a joke unless of course they agree with your opinion. lol

P.S. I wouldn't take a 1920s poll as gospel either the Yellow Press had no sense of scruples either and often posted lies that supported one political opinion over another and there was no one to regulate them

- -Polls in general as well as scientific studies and various sociologic studies have been notoriously inaccurate through the ages because 1. they almost always ask leading questions limiting the response to two options 2. they are by necessity but too often by design limited in their scope in contrast to the sweeping conclusions provided by the results.

See Truman vs Dewey back when. More recently in Gore vs Bush where Gore's own pollsters advised him to tender his resignation from the race just as he was jumping past Bush in Floriduh that caused him to rescind his resignation that caused one of the biggest constitutional crises as this country has seen since the Civil
War. All voting systems have an unknown or unstated margin of error conveniently ignored as Hilarity vs Rump showed not so long after.

Fights can be offered til the cows come home but they ain't happening if the venue and/or the $$$ can't be secured as proven in Dempsey/Wills, what, near a dozen ?

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[The Old LefHook]

Were Stoney and Lou Duva ever in opposing corners? That matchup would overshadow their own boxers.

[Willie Pep 229]

- -Polls in general as well as scientific studies and various sociologic studies have been notoriously inaccurate through the ages because 1. they almost always ask leading questions limiting the response to two options 2. they are by necessity but too often by design limited in their scope in contrast to the sweeping conclusions provided by the results.

See Truman vs Dewey back when. More recently in Gore vs Bush where Gore's own pollsters advised him to tender his resignation from the race just as he was jumping past Bush in Floriduh that caused him to rescind his resignation that caused one of the biggest constitutional crises as this country has seen since the Civil
War. All voting systems have an unknown or unstated margin of error conveniently ignored as Hilarity vs Rump showed not so long after.

Fights can be offered til the cows come home but they ain't happening if the venue and/or the $$$ can't be secured as proven in Dempsey/Wills, what, near a dozen ?

ct-truman-defeats-dewey-1948-flashback-perspec-1113-md-20161111.jpg

Agree with the final statement completely - but not with the Gore-Bush comparison.

The early Florida call for Gore, via exit polls, was amazingly correct, about both the call and how close it was.

It turned out just over 1500 ballots were miss case in Palm Beach County - in the end Bush won the State by less than 500 votes.

That exit poll call for Gore, was a damn good call for an exit poll, but the voters unwittingly gave the pollsters bad information, believing they had voted for Gore not Buchanan.

Besides Florida wasn't where Gore blew it, that was New Hampshire.

Clinton had won NH twice before and a ******** has won the State in every subsequent election since (save Gore).

Gore swept the northeast except for NH.

Gore could have spent one tenth the capital and one fifth the time in New Hampshire and gave away Florida and still won the election.

Gore lost New Hampshire back in the ********ic primary over an ugly river canoe photo opt and never went back to clean up the mess.

W won the election by one vote; flip NH and Gore is president. Florida shouldn't have been important. Gore's people blew their logistics, but the exit poll would have been correct if the old people could have read the ballot correctly.

[Marchegiano]

True - I remember back in 2000 an Internet poll had Ron Paul leading W Bush 63% to 35% - among supposed **********s voters- they hadn't by then figured out to stop multiple voting on the polls and extremists tend to have no lives and will sit in front of their computers and vote over and over.

One of the lesser networks (USA maybe) used a call in phone poll to find Oba Carr's next opponent. Livingstone Bramble admitted later he had his family and friends calling in over and over so he could get the fight.

Internet polls are probably still a joke unless of course they agree with your opinion. lol

P.S. I wouldn't take a 1920s poll as gospel either the Yellow Press had no sense of scruples either and often posted lies that supported one political opinion over another and there was no one to regulate them

All fine points bud, I was thinking about localization.

[markusmod]

Were Stoney and Lou Duva ever in opposing corners? That matchup would overshadow their own boxers.

If only we were that lucky. Was Stoney training Ruiz when Tua (trained by Duva) knocked him out?

[QueensburyRules]

Agree with the final statement completely - but not with the Gore-Bush comparison.

The early Florida call for Gore, via exit polls, was amazingly correct, about both the call and how close it was.

It turned out just over 1500 ballots were miss case in Palm Beach County - in the end Bush won the State by less than 500 votes.

That exit poll call for Gore, was a damn good call for an exit poll, but the voters unwittingly gave the pollsters bad information, believing they had voted for Gore not Buchanan.

Besides Florida wasn't where Gore blew it, that was New Hampshire.

Clinton had won NH twice before and a ******** has won the State in every subsequent election since (save Gore).

Gore swept the northeast except for NH.

Gore could have spent one tenth the capital and one fifth the time in New Hampshire and gave away Florida and still won the election.

Gore lost New Hampshire back in the ********ic primary over an ugly river canoe photo opt and never went back to clean up the mess.

W won the election by one vote; flip NH and Gore is president. Florida shouldn't have been important. Gore's people blew their logistics, but the exit poll would have been correct if the old people could have read the ballot correctly.

- -Voters too dum to know who to vote for. It was in Florida with GW seemingly an uncatchable lead when Gore's pollsters advised him to tender his resignation.

In 2016 Obillary was already planning the festivities for her Coronation the as her and other pollsters forecast. What happened next is something that should be studied but for the financial incentives for pollsters to be the first to be with the right forecast after feting Obilary with favorable numbers to stay on her substantial payroll.

End of the day, polling 5000 folks in a nation of 330mil of which only 1/4th may vote ain't any kind of recipe for a decent success. A gorilla throwing darts at a dartboard has just as much success.