Look at the K2 Brothers fighting!!

[QueensburyRules]

They needed to tag team the worst era ever. Hardly something to brag about. They were both good fighters, but try not to get to far ahead of yourself. And yes, Vits and Primos style were very similar.

- -Only worse to U because they dominated and emasculated former and current top Americans and Brits not to mention driving a stake through the DKing empire that has been running on his inflamed bowel fumes ever since.

Ain't U a bit on the old side to be swillin' American Koolaide?

[JAB5239]

- -Only worse to U because they dominated and emasculated former and current top Americans and Brits not to mention driving a stake through the DKing empire that has been running on his inflamed bowel fumes ever since.

Ain't U a bit on the old side to be swillin' American Koolaide?

Where do you get this from? When have I said any such thing? Fact is, they needed the other to clean up their losses instead of doing it themselves, and the top 10 was mostly a revolving door besides the Klits. The talent level just want there for the most part and the top fighters were in no hurry to ever fight one another unless the Klitschko name was attached with a sizable payday. I've shown this time and again.

[billeau2]

Vitaly in flicker film the first video, Carnera in the second video. do they not look similar?

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Great find! Very similar styles. The ambling alp looks quite stable and has a very balanced stance.

[QueensburyRules]

Where do you get this from? When have I said any such thing? Fact is, they needed the other to clean up their losses instead of doing it themselves, and the top 10 was mostly a revolving door besides the Klits. The talent level just want there for the most part and the top fighters were in no hurry to ever fight one another unless the Klitschko name was attached with a sizable payday. I've shown this time and again.

- -U schoolboy projection ain't reality.

Welcome to go to boxrec for the R ratings while they were active for 16 years, and you'll see the end of the 90s into the 00s where Valuev, Ruiz, Haye, Adamek and other were staples.

[JAB5239]

Great find! Very similar styles. The ambling alp looks quite stable and has a very balanced stance.

Thanks. I think Carnera gets sold short a lot on boxing forums. Not a great, but much better than given credit for.

[JAB5239]

- -U schoolboy projection ain't reality.

Welcome to go to boxrec for the R ratings while they were active for 16 years, and you'll see the end of the 90s into the 00s where Valuev, Ruiz, Haye, Adamek and other were staples.

This is where you want to take it, really? Ok, have it your way. Each only fought one of the four names you've posted. Adamek for Vits and Hate for Glad. If you want to dig deeper I can tell you during Vits time he did not fight at least 25 fighters during the years (not including when he was temporarily retired) when he was in the top 10. Trust me, you don't want to get on this train with me. I'm not disparaging either brother as a fighter, but for their lack of comp and who at least Vits chose to fight compared to who he did not.

[QueensburyRules]

This is where you want to take it, really? Ok, have it your way. Each only fought one of the four names you've posted. Adamek for Vits and Hate for Glad. If you want to dig deeper I can tell you during Vits time he did not fight at least 25 fighters during the years (not including when he was temporarily retired) when he was in the top 10. Trust me, you don't want to get on this train with me. I'm not disparaging either brother as a fighter, but for their lack of comp and who at least Vits chose to fight compared to who he did not.

- -Not my point, Jr.

U stated the era was weak when it wasn't. Quite the opposite.

Already posted the boxrec top 30 at the point when Vit defended against Briggs with the full history of those heavies most all of whom had been previously extinguished by the Ks with the few left DKing duckers ect.

No need to go over old ground, but of course kids being kiddies need it drilled into their empty noggins in a long fill up...

[JAB5239]

- -Not my point, Jr.

U stated the era was weak when it wasn't. Quite the opposite.

Already posted the boxrec top 30 at the point when Vit defended against Briggs with the full history of those heavies most all of whom had been previously extinguished by the Ks with the few left DKing duckers ect.

No need to go over old ground, but of course kids being kiddies need it drilled into their empty noggins in a long fill up...

Yes, you showed so much proof referencing Ruiz, Haye, Valuev and Adamek while forgetting each brother only fought one of those fighters each. Such a strong era. You seem to forget that Vits DIDN'T fight Holyfield, Grant, Ibeabuchi, Tua, Tyson, Golota, Jefferson, Maskaev, Rahman, Ruiz, McCline, O'Quendo, Wladimir, Jones, Toney, Barret, Brewster, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin, Valuev, Chambers, Boystov, Dimetrenko, Thompson, Haye, Helenius, Pulev, Fury and refused to rematch Byrd who had made him quit, even though they were ranked nearly side by side for years. So please tell me how the revolving door of contenders made a strong era when they hardly faced one another and Vittles himself faced so few of them? 29 fighters, plus no Byrd rematch.

[billeau2]

Thanks. I think Carnera gets sold short a lot on boxing forums. Not a great, but much better than given credit for.

Like a lot of "monsters" lol... You see him and expect what Richard Pryor said about George Foreman: "Foreman walked out to the ring to fight Ali... looks around and says 'which one da referee?' Good, cause Im going to kill the other mother fkr"

But the bigger guys are seldom big punchers. Carnera had good form, used combos well, and was strong as an ox. I think Vitalie had a bigger punch, but on the whole, did not have the foot speed of Carnera. Carnera also had a decent set of whiskers. I mean Vitalie was buckled by Sanders the first round of that fight. Would be interesting to see a fight between Carnera and Vitalie.

[billeau2]

Yes, you showed so much proof referencing Ruiz, Haye, Valuev and Adamek while forgetting each brother only fought one of those fighters each. Such a strong era. You seem to forget that Vits DIDN'T fight Holyfield, Grant, Ibeabuchi, Tua, Tyson, Golota, Jefferson, Maskaev, Rahman, Ruiz, McCline, O'Quendo, Wladimir, Jones, Toney, Barret, Brewster, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin, Valuev, Chambers, Boystov, Dimetrenko, Thompson, Haye, Helenius, Pulev, Fury and refused to rematch Byrd who had made him quit, even though they were ranked nearly side by side for years. So please tell me how the revolving door of contenders made a strong era when they hardly faced one another and Vittles himself faced so few of them? 29 fighters, plus no Byrd rematch.

I mean... what was Vitalie's best win? An out of shape Sanders? An older Donald? Who did he beat?