Is Duran the greatest fighter still alive today?

[travestyny]

I believe it is obvious from all the sources and testimonials since the fight that Mayweather was juicing and had to avoid committing to giving up any money if caught.

Of course he would have lost the fight if caught juicing but the contract would have caused him to pay a 5 million penalty besides losing the 100 million payday.

The preponderance of evidence strongly suggests that Mayweather was a cheat.

Impossible because the contract was signed before this was proposed. But nice try.


By the way, now that you know Pacquiao declined the fight over having to give less than 2 tbsps of blood as early as 15 days before the fight, what do you think that was about?

[them_apples]

Great post. Throughout his career there were rumblings of illegal injections for his delicate hands that were sealed from the public.

A fighter of his caliber would not dehydrate himself on the eve of the biggest fight of his career to the extent he needed an illegal IV to rehydrate. As many experts have already noted, a bottle of Gatorade or pedialyte would have been more than sufficient. He was obviously masking PEDs.

What better way to deflect attention away from your own PED use, than to develop a questionable relationship with USADA to give the illusion you are clean and wanting to clean up boxing? Then accuse a fighter who you are pressured to fight of using A-side meth and steroids. Said fighter wins an out of court settlement, agrees to full testing and the excuses continue for another four years as Manny suffers a lot of wear and tear from tougher fights. Then, Floyd himself admits he marinated the fight for five years and deserved credit for being smart and making it a bigger fight, a glaring admission that he was the one who ducked and dodged all those years starting in 2009.

the xylocaine injections arent even rumblings, he got busted for it but claimed the commission said it was ok. The PED use im pretty sure he brushed under the rug, like they did with Canelo. I like Canelo but I strongly believe he's on the sauce as well.

A lot of fighters especially in old age are using peds and its harder to detect it.

You know the old saying, a su****ious person is a guilty person.

[travestyny]

Great post. Throughout his career there were rumblings of illegal injections for his delicate hands that were sealed from the public.

A fighter of his caliber would not dehydrate himself on the eve of the biggest fight of his career to the extent he needed an illegal IV to rehydrate. As many experts have already noted, a bottle of Gatorade or pedialyte would have been more than sufficient. He was obviously masking PEDs.

What better way to deflect attention away from your own PED use, than to develop a questionable relationship with USADA to give the illusion you are clean and wanting to clean up boxing? Then accuse a fighter who you are pressured to fight of using A-side meth and steroids. Said fighter wins an out of court settlement, agrees to full testing and the excuses continue for another four years as Manny suffers a lot of wear and tear from tougher fights. Then, Floyd himself admits he marinated the fight for five years and deserved credit for being smart and making it a bigger fight, a glaring admission that he was the one who ducked and dodged all those years starting in 2009.

What about that contract that he signed that you can't come to terms with?

There could be various reasons for an IV to rehydrate over drinking water. Apparently since you are always up to date on what's happening in Spoon's thread, maybe you should read some of the posts there on the topic. You might learn something.

[travestyny]

the xylocaine injections arent even rumblings, he got busted for it but claimed the commission said it was ok. The PED use im pretty sure he brushed under the rug, like they did with Canelo. I like Canelo but I strongly believe he's on the sauce as well.

A lot of fighters especially in old age are using peds and its harder to detect it.

You know the old saying, a su****ious person is a guilty person.

There were no rumblings. Dr. Goodman is in a video with him talking about it when she was on the NSAC board. I think it was the video filmed before the Gatti fight.


The fighter that did get busted for trying to take something was Pacquiao when his doctor tried to shoot him up with Toradol in the dressing room before the Mayweather fight, and then admit that he didn't need the shot when questioned.

[GhostofDempsey]

What about that contract that he signed that you can't come to terms with?

There could be various reasons for an IV to rehydrate over drinking water. Apparently since you are always up to date on what's happening in Spoon's thread, maybe you should read some of the posts there on the topic. You might learn something.

Show us the contract.

[travestyny]

Show us the contract.

Here's the article

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--floyd-mayweather-and-manny-pacquiao-nearly-agreed-to-a-2010-fight.html

[GhostofDempsey]

I'll give you the article right here on Boxrec.


https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...pacquaio-fight

The article is irrelevant. Not proof, just regurgitating Iole's claims. If you want to die on this hill fighting everyone over a contract that Floyd's own promoter knew nothing about, go right on ahead. You're already accustomed to posting half truths and very opinionated "facts".

[travestyny]

The article is irrelevant. Not proof, just regurgitating Iole's claims. If you want to die on this hill fighting everyone over a contract that Floyd's own promoter knew nothing about, go right on ahead. You're already accustomed to posting half truths and very opinionated "facts".

Like I said...common sense. Parties from each side and a neutral party said that the contract exists. So why would the promoter on the other side, Mayweather, and a guy on neither side say it exists? You going to keep ducking that?


Someone has to be....what was the term....mistaken. You think 3 people are mistaken, or one?

[GhostofDempsey]

Like I said...common sense. Parties from each side and a neutral party said that the contract exists. So why would the promoter on the other side, Mayweather, and a guy on neither side say it exists? You going to keep ducking that?


Someone has to be....what was the term....mistaken. You think 3 people are mistaken, or one?

Mistaken or lying, doesn't matter. Iole is a known Manny-hater, especially back then. Floyd is not the pillar of truth, he denied beating his girlfriends. The only one ducking was Floyd, but he called it "Marinating", LMAO!

[travestyny]

Mistaken or lying, doesn't matter. Iole is a known Manny-hater, especially back then. Floyd is not the pillar of truth, he denied beating his girlfriends. The only one ducking was Floyd, but he called it "Marinating", LMAO!

What? A Manny hater based on what?


And you left Arum out. We both know he can be a liar...but I imagine you left him out because it makes no sense for him to lie about this....right? Did you think him not being in your post wouldn't be a glaring omission?