Is Duran the greatest fighter still alive today?

[Beercules]

Pac would beat Duran.


People here are using the JMM4 KO as a measuring stick.



Pac is a polished fighter (prime)


Tough, ill take Pac. No KO

[travestyny]

Didn't Pac complianed about not wanting the needle but your people mocked him silly asking then why does he have tattoos - is that why he changed to blood loss. Or did your side just make up that he said he feared needles as a lie?

Now I wonder which that is.

If you look back at my post you'll see I stated I didn't know his actuall aversion but ( according to SI) that it was trauma enough to let him convince himself that it was the cause of his defeat and he wasn't going to repeat it. They ( SI) didn't buy the blood loss line either, did they? They kept it as "an adversion."

But you needed to reduce that to an absurdity so you could demean him and in came the " 2tbs" BS.

Once again the details aren't the issue here it is the manner in which you demean fighters, (calling Jeffries a coward) others opinions, arguments, and insights by reducing them to an absurd statement or question and then DEMAND that they answer your bias loaded questions.

I find it annoying so I annoy you.

Also beside your constant shaping of facts into absurdities you also love to confuse by creating false value to sources and opinions by using glittering terminology.

You most recent crime in this area is the over use of the phrase 'stricter drug testing' thus making it sound as though Pac was avoiding a more comprehensive test; it took me five posts or so to figure out you meant nothing more than a shorter timeframe. (Besides wasn't it your guy who wanted and got an exception?)

Too much hyperbole.

You can choose to ignore me; I shall endeavor to leave you alone.

Just stop with the bullshlt. Once again, it was your poor reading comprehension skills that caused this drama. Just like your poor reading comprehension skills led you to accuse me of something regarding Jeffries, and I was so kind to take the time to walk you through the article and explain why you were reading it incorrectly, then proved to you definitively that you had it incorrect. Did you ever apologize for your accusation against me? Nope. You avoided the thread afterward, so I'm not surprised that there is no apology coming from you here.

I was confused about what your big deal was because I've always known what Manny himself claimed the issue was, and it had nothing to do with needles. There is no "your side" in this argument. There is HIS side, which you so comically stated doesn't matter. And for the record, it was Pacquiao's fans who pointed out that he never himself stated that he was afraid of needles. That was something Bob Arum stated, which was laughed off because of Pacquiao's tattoos.

The man said himself that he felt weak because of giving blood. THAT was the issue. You pulled it out of your own ass (as usual) that it had something to do with damage from needles. Maybe if you would have looked into it, you wouldn't have made a fool of yourself with, once again, your baseless accusations.

SO congratulations for making a fool of yourself yet again, making accusations against other's yet again, and being forced to eat crow but not being man enough to admit that you're wrong or apologize. Keep up with the accusations, though. It only makes you look more pathetic when you're proven wrong constantly and when your accusations are proven to be baseless.

Hope you enjoyed that.


By the way, quote me using the word "stricter" in this thread. Once gain, you should learn how to read. It was ShoulderRoll that was using the word stricter. And there certainly was nothing wrong with the way he used it. More much ado about nothing and accusations from you...what a surprise

[Willie Pep 229]

Who is Shoulder Roll?

[them_apples]

Pac would beat Duran.


People here are using the JMM4 KO as a measuring stick.



Pac is a polished fighter (prime)


Tough, ill take Pac. No KO

I like Pacquiao but I see Duran having every advantage in a brawl, which is what it would turn into. Duran is so good at this type of fighting he nearly beat a prime Hagler and he himself wasn't even close to his best shape.

At 135 or 147 vs PAC its gonna be a fight but Duran is way too good at too many things. He would capitalize on Pacquiao being hittable (and land something huge), and his headmovement and chin would nullify a lot of Pacquiao's assault. And then there is the physical size and inside fighting, which Pacquiao has never shown capable of (inside fighting). Likely because his upper body is small.

[ShoulderRoll]

Oh the hypocrisy.


Pacquiao vs. Rios To Have USADA Drug Testing

https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-vs-rios-usada-drug-testing--65347

Pacquiao will ask Marquez to take drug test

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/05/21/14/pacquiao-will-ask-marquez-take-drug-test

[QueensburyRules]

The problem with Pacquiao is that he doesn't have the technical skill to match up with Floyd. How many times did we watch him gradually push Floyd to the corner, only to be clocked with a check hook and have Floyd turn out....over and over and over again. I'm surprised that he never learned how to cut off the ring effectively.

Duran, Sugar Ray, and I'd have to go Floyd next. For what it's worth, I think Canelo is amazing and could possibly move into this list before his career is done.

- -How many times we have to remind U Minder to reiterate that Sissyboy Junior need commish doctoring of the judges' cards and a 2 week back dated TUE to clear the drug testing for the official commish sanctioned win of a fight those of us obviously in the know knew in advance was a farce, not a fight.

Why U ain't never tell us what grade U in now?

[QueensburyRules]

I like Pacquiao but I see Duran having every advantage in a brawl, which is what it would turn into. Duran is so good at this type of fighting he nearly beat a prime Hagler and he himself wasn't even close to his best shape.

At 135 or 147 vs PAC its gonna be a fight but Duran is way too good at too many things. He would capitalize on Pacquiao being hittable (and land something huge), and his headmovement and chin would nullify a lot of Pacquiao's assault. And then there is the physical size and inside fighting, which Pacquiao has never shown capable of (inside fighting). Likely because his upper body is small.

- -How many lefties did Duran beat?

One or none?

[travestyny]

- -How many times we have to remind U Minder to reiterate that Sissyboy Junior need commish doctoring of the judges' cards and a 2 week back dated TUE to clear the drug testing for the official commish sanctioned win of a fight those of us obviously in the know knew in advance was a farce, not a fight.

Why U ain't never tell us what grade U in now?

That's not what his biggest fans, Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman said. They laughed in Pacquiao's face when he claimed he won.


I didn't see any signs of super human strength or stamina. I saw a steady dose of jabs, check hooks, and right hands tho. Pacquaio didn't have the skill to keep up. Just like you don't have a brain to keep up, and that's why your nickname here is kickball.

[QueensburyRules]

That's not what his biggest fans, Jim Lampley and Max Kellerman said. They laughed in Pacquiao's face when he claimed he won.


I didn't see any signs of super human strength or stamina. I saw a steady dose of jabs, check hooks, and right hands tho. Pacquaio didn't have the skill to keep up. Just like you don't have a brain to keep up, and that's why your nickname here is kickball.

- -Sissyboy Junior needed commish doctored judges' cards and a 2 week backdated TUE in his own hometown to win a farce, not a fight. Need to take U noggin out the bag of glue to buy a clue instead of sissying up a man's sport of legend.

[travestyny]

- -Sissyboy Junior needed commish doctored judges' cards and a 2 week backdated TUE in his own hometown to win a farce, not a fight. Need to take U noggin out the bag of glue to buy a clue instead of sissying up a man's sport of legend.

Name 5 professional boxers who thought Pacquiao won that fight.

I'll be waiting


Not even his own coach thought he won.